Erik Wilsher wrote: > And I think the discussion that followed proved your point perfectly > Fredrik. Big discussion over fairly minor things, but no "big > picture". Where are the initiatives on the "big stuff" (common > documentation format, improved build system, improved web modules, > reworking the standard library to mention a few) Hey, even Ruby is > passing us here.
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote: > This is Open Source. If you want an initiative, start one. Fredrik Lundh wrote: > you know, this "you have opinions? fuck off!" attitude isn't really helping. While I should know better than replying to </F>, ;) I have to say that I don't think "you have opinions? fuck off!" was the intent at all. I don't know many people who'd argue that we don't need: * more complete and better organized documentation * a simpler build/install system * etc. But they'll never get done if no one volunteers to work on them. Recently, I saw a volunteer on python-dev looking to help make the docs more complete, and he was redirected to the docs SIG to help out. This is good. I know that there's been a bunch of work on setuptools[1] that's supposed to be a real improvement on distutils. This is also goood. But there're only so many man-hours available to work on these projects. If you see a problem, and you want it fixed, the right thing to do is to donate some of your time to a project that needs it. This, I believe, is the essence of Reinhold Birkenfeld's comment. STeVe [1]http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
