On 2026-09-22, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <[email protected]> wrote: > On 9/22/2026 6:05 AM, Jon Ribbens wrote: >> On 2026-09-21, Martin Schöön <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Den 2026-09-21 skrev Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson >>> <[email protected]>: >>>> On 9/21/2026 5:17 PM, Martin Schöön wrote: >>> <snip> >>>>> >>>>> Yesterday, however, I encountered a problem that a quick internet >>>>> search told me is somewhat common: adding a package to an environment >>>>> stalls at the 'solving environment' stage. I found a bunch of rather >>>>> different 'fixes'. I have not tried any yet. I think maybe I am doing >>>>> environments wrong. >>>>> >>> <snip> >>>>> My thinking now: >>>>> >>>>> I should have more rather than fewer environments and make them more >>>>> task specific -- avoid 'general purpose' environments to limit the >>>>> number of packages in each environment. >>>>> >>>>> I have noticed that "conda update whatever" /always/ tells me everything >>>>> is up-to-date. This can't be true. Will the procedure of the third >>>>> bullet above solve this? >>>>> >>>>> No, I have not tried asking any LLM. I hope for some real human advice. >>>>> >>>> Dear Martin, >>> <snip> >>>> Have you considered installing the offending package using your opera- >>>> ting system package manager instead, if available as such? There are >>>> n+1 [1] Linux package managers, so I leave off any suggestions for the >>>> command line tool. >>> >>> I think this is how most or even all Linux users start with Python. Then, >>> after a while you want to use a Python package (or version) not catered >>> for by your system package manager... >> >> Indeed. Using the operating system package manager for Python >> packages is only feasible if you yourself are creating a package >> for that operating system. > > Point taken. Now, what is worrying me, is the lack of answers about the > Conda package manager. I was under the impression Usenet was full of > Python coders [1], and someone would know what to do about the original > problem. > > Is there really, in all of Usenet, nobody who knows how to solve this?
I've been using Python for nearly 30 years, but I'm afraid I've never heard of this 'conda' thing of which you speak. I use 'pip' for nearly everything, but apparently 'uv' is the new hotness. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman3//lists/python-list.python.org
