On 9/22/2026 5:08 PM, Jon Ribbens wrote:
On 2026-09-22, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <[email protected]> wrote:
On 9/22/2026 6:05 AM, Jon Ribbens wrote:
On 2026-09-21, Martin Schöön <[email protected]> wrote:
Den 2026-09-21 skrev Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <[email protected]>:
On 9/21/2026 5:17 PM, Martin Schöön wrote:
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Yesterday, however, I encountered a problem that a quick internet
search told me is somewhat common: adding a package to an environment
stalls at the 'solving environment' stage. I found a bunch of rather
different 'fixes'. I have not tried any yet. I think maybe I am doing
environments wrong.
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My thinking now:
I should have more rather than fewer environments and make them more
task specific -- avoid 'general purpose' environments to limit the
number of packages in each environment.
I have noticed that "conda update whatever" /always/ tells me everything
is up-to-date. This can't be true. Will the procedure of the third
bullet above solve this?
No, I have not tried asking any LLM. I hope for some real human advice.
Dear Martin,
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Have you considered installing the offending package using your opera-
ting system package manager instead, if available as such? There are
n+1 [1] Linux package managers, so I leave off any suggestions for the
command line tool.
I think this is how most or even all Linux users start with Python. Then,
after a while you want to use a Python package (or version) not catered
for by your system package manager...
Indeed. Using the operating system package manager for Python
packages is only feasible if you yourself are creating a package
for that operating system.
Point taken. Now, what is worrying me, is the lack of answers about the
Conda package manager. I was under the impression Usenet was full of
Python coders [1], and someone would know what to do about the original
problem.
Is there really, in all of Usenet, nobody who knows how to solve this?
I've been using Python for nearly 30 years, but I'm afraid I've never
heard of this 'conda' thing of which you speak. I use 'pip' for nearly
everything, but apparently 'uv' is the new hotness.
I've used Python sporadically since roughly 2011. I used to have nice
O'Reilly books but have chosen not to try to reacquire those. They're
probably obsolete.
In any case, I've never used Conda either, and have managed so far with
only a few pip installs.
Best wishes, and happy Python!
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