On 06/03/2015 11:53, alister wrote:
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:23:22 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
No. I'm saying that it's clear the person saying “get their panties all
up in a bunch” fully intends to convey specifically *female* underwear,
and thereby to use implied femininity as an insult.
Yes, of course I know some people who aren't female wear panties. Yes,
of course I know some women wear underwear that isn't panties. Don't try
to change the topic with absurd logical extremes that I didn't raise.
I'm talking about the implication of the comment as a gendered insult.
It's only gender specific if you accept the sexist gendered stereotype
that all women are by definition thin-skinned and excessively
sensitive.
Bullshit. I said nothing about the sensitivity of anyone. Individual
women you may know – even *all* women, everywhere – could be as tough as
nails, and it doesn't address the point I'm raising.
Whether any particular woman is targeted or not, the comment I'm
responding to invokes female gender as an implied insult. That's
unwelcoming to women, and I don't want such unwelcoming attitudes in
this community.
I have not seen one female poster on this site claim to be offended by
the comment or even consider it to be a slur.
I doubt that the original poster of the comment intended it to be either
& most people reading it would have known that (regardless of their
gender)
one thing i personally find offensive is when someone raises an issue on
someone else's behalf because they THINK they MIGHT get offended without
bothering to check.
I am not female so this particular instance does not relate to me but an
example from a few years ago was when a popular UK soap made an extreme
effort not to show a cross or Christmas tree during a church wedding in
case it "offended not-Christians".
I am a non-Christian & found that decision offensive.
When a UK TV station showed the Dam Busters film some years ago and
edited out the part about the burial of Guy Gibson's dog, I wasn't
offended, I was downright livid. How dare they distort history in an
attempt to avoid offending people.
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