On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:23:22 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > No. I'm saying that it's clear the person saying “get their panties all > up in a bunch” fully intends to convey specifically *female* underwear, > and thereby to use implied femininity as an insult. > > Yes, of course I know some people who aren't female wear panties. Yes, > of course I know some women wear underwear that isn't panties. Don't try > to change the topic with absurd logical extremes that I didn't raise. > > I'm talking about the implication of the comment as a gendered insult. > >> It's only gender specific if you accept the sexist gendered stereotype >> that all women are by definition thin-skinned and excessively >> sensitive. > > Bullshit. I said nothing about the sensitivity of anyone. Individual > women you may know – even *all* women, everywhere – could be as tough as > nails, and it doesn't address the point I'm raising. > > Whether any particular woman is targeted or not, the comment I'm > responding to invokes female gender as an implied insult. That's > unwelcoming to women, and I don't want such unwelcoming attitudes in > this community.
I have not seen one female poster on this site claim to be offended by the comment or even consider it to be a slur. I doubt that the original poster of the comment intended it to be either & most people reading it would have known that (regardless of their gender) one thing i personally find offensive is when someone raises an issue on someone else's behalf because they THINK they MIGHT get offended without bothering to check. I am not female so this particular instance does not relate to me but an example from a few years ago was when a popular UK soap made an extreme effort not to show a cross or Christmas tree during a church wedding in case it "offended not-Christians". I am a non-Christian & found that decision offensive. -- Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list