On 4/3/14 9:07 PM, alex23 wrote:
On 4/04/2014 2:38 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
If I speak of the python community, and I rarely do
Maybe you speak "of" them rarely but you claim to speak "for" them
fairly often.
I am sorry, and I do apologize (genuinely). I knowingly speak for my
users, because I have their input (positive and negative) and because I
have a list of likes|dislikes.
I don't knowingly speak 'for' the python community; except that I
can see that speaking about|for 'python' the interpreter might get
interpreted as speaking of|for the 'python community'. If that occurs I
assure you that its not intentional (mostly).
Python3 is not perfect; but python3 is *way* more consistent than
python2 and consequently *way* more useful than python2.
It's possible for something to become "more useful" and for the original
to *also* be useful: Py2 old-style classes were useful even though
new-style classes were more so. Plone uses Py2's unicode extensively and
at no point have I thought it "useless".
Oh, I agree. Again, think of 'useful' on a continuum where
comparison and contrast is king and queen, and where 'more useful' does
not make 'less useful' obsolete. Again, prior to the C accelerated
decimal module for python3.3 I did not use decimal (too slow). That does
not mean that decimal was 'useless' (I am using it on 2.7.2 with QPython
on Android with pdeclib). But something happened, decimal became fast
enough that it is truly 'useful' enough (on the continuum) to be used
IMHO as default. (that is all rhetorical; no need to argue it)
Now, about Python2. It has not died. It appears to be 'useful'.
The perceived reality is that Python2 is 'useful'. Or, is it as I
perceive it, python2 is embedded in so many places that it must be
maintained for a long time because so many code(s) will break otherwise?
Not so much 'useful' as 'used,' so that it is never sacked.
Or, is it really that python2 is so much more 'suitable for a particular
purpose' ('useful') that certain folks just don't want to use python3?
Beats me; the community will have to decide.
marcus
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