On Apr 28, 7:00 am, Wolfgang Strobl <ne...@mystrobl.de> wrote: > lkcl <luke.leigh...@googlemail.com>: > > > > > > >On Apr 25, 9:37 pm, Wolfgang Strobl <ne...@mystrobl.de> wrote: > >> Daniel Fetchinson <fetchin...@googlemail.com>: > > >> >> for fits and giggles, to show what's possible in only 400 > >> >> lines of python, here is a game of asteroids, written by joe rumsey. > >> >> yes, it runs underpyjamas-desktop too. > > >> >> http://pyjs.org/examples/asteroids/public/Space.html > > >> >This URL returns a blank page for me on firefox 3.3.5 (linux) with and > >> >without adblock plus. > > >>http://pyjs.org/examples/asteroids/output/Space.htmlworks. (Firefox > >> 3.6.3 with ABP, Chrome 4.1) > > > yep. apologies. didn't want to play asteroids, wanted to do a > >release. > > Sure. :-) But you made a very prominent reference to it. Btw., > bothhttp://pyjs.org/andhttp://code.google.com/p/pyjamas/still name 0.6 as > the current version. Shouldn't that be changed to 0.7?
yes. haven't got round to it yet. > Two weeks ago, I played around with the trunk version, looking for an > working drag&drop example. I didn't find anything, but noticed some > unfinished code in a dnd subdirectory. Are you aware of the fact that > many of the examples just don't work no - because i specifically asked people, in the 0.7 pre-releases, to report any bugs found on http://code.google.com/p/pyjamas/issues and i said that once a certain amount of time had elapsed without receiving significant bugreports, i would do a release. > and that there is no way of > telling, other than by trying each one out in turn? yepp that's correct. across multiple browsers and across multiple desktop platforms. nine in total. which is why i asked for community input this time. for the 0.6 release i spent about a month of my own time and money doing the necessary verification, and i decided i wasn't going to place the entire burden of testing onto my own shoulders, this time, because pyjamas is a _community_ project and is _not_ funded by google, PSF, or any other organisation, foundation or company. > I didn't look at > every example again, but AFAIK, this didn't change with 0.7. (Tried with > Python 2.6.4/5 on WinXP/7 with Firefox and Chrome, if that matters). then please issue bugreports for as many as you feel comfortable with / have time for. i _did_ tell people this time that i was relying on community input more than for 0.6. thus, the "quality" of the release depends on collective input. > There are quite some impressive working examples, but the user > experience is somewhat lacking and hampered by stumbling over faulting > examples, IMHO. May I suggest to restrinct some overview page to the > working examples, only? no, because they're all intended to work. ohh... wait... are you referring to some of the django-based ones? no, you can't be, because the http://pyjs.org/examples page won't refer you to them. > Given my original motivation for looking into it - may I ask whether > there is a working example for a dnd operation, somewhere? the person who started the port of gwt-dnd requested that they be "left alone" to complete it, but then didn't. the use of java2py.py and manual conversion i can do about 1000 lines per day, and people i've guided before usually take about 3x longer than me. i don't have money to work on even 1 line let alone 1000, so if you'd like to go through the code, converting it and the examples, i'm happy to advise (on the pyjamas-dev list so that other people can contribute as well if they choose). it's quite straightforward, and somewhat mind-numbing and detail- orientated: the absolute most important thing is _not_ to "get creative", but just "trust" the original gwt-dnd code and simply do "rote" conversion. java2py.py does 95% of the work: it's interfaces, sub-classes and function/operator overloading where things get a little hairy. oh, and references to "self", a concept which doesn't exist in java (and java2py.py can't help with except in one special and obvious case). other than that: there _is_ sufficient in there to simply "roll your own" drag-and-drop. you have access to mouse events; you can create state... it's not hard. but, if you're counting on a _lot_ of dnd work, doing the semi-automated conversion of gwt-dnd would be a goood idea. l. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
