>> I have no idea what reverse url generation is. > > It's a mean to avoid hard-coding urls in your application code - the url is > fully generated by the 'url mapping' system. >
I don't need that, see below. >> I assume that the user >> will call http://example.com/path/to/script.py?var1=hello&var2=world >> >> script.py would live in /home/user/site-name/public_html/path/to/ >> > > Now try to use apache url rewrites to use "nice urls" (like, > "/<section-name>/<sub-section-name>/<article-name>" instead of > "path/to/script-serving-articles.wtf?id=42"). Good luck. > Actually, currently in the example url http://example.com/path/to/script.py?var1=hello&var2=world the script is /home/user/site-name/public_html/path/ (with no filename extension) and the script.py is actually page.html which is an arbitrary, descriptive string and not part of the script filename. See the pages on http://dotancohen.com for examples. >> I would prefer to output everything from <html> to </html> with print >> statements. I don't want some framework wrapping my output in tags, I >> want the tags to be part of the output. > > You're confusing the framework and the templating system. The framework by > itself won't wrap your "output" in anything, nor even forces you to "output" > HTML. This is what I was hoping to hear. I don't remember the details, but I had a hard time outputting the HTML myself in Django. I will play with it again soon if I get the chance. > Also FWIW, it's HTTP, so we don't have "outputs", we have HTTP > responses. > Clearly. I was referring to stdout being send to the browser as the http response. I think I mentioned that, but I apologize for being unclear. >> Yes, why not? > > Let's say I want to reuse your app with a different presentation. Do I have > to fork the whole application and send my HTML coder dig into your > applicative code just to rewrite the HTML parts ? > No, just replace two files. In that manner it is templating. Again, an example from the current PHP code: <?php $variables_for_header="blah"; include "/path/to/header.inc"; // content here include "/path/to/footer.inc"; ?> >> Like I said before, I don't want to have to maintain the functions >> that turn the HTTP environment into Python variables, > > "HTTP environment" ??? > > Oh, you mean HTTP requests etc... Well, the cgi module already provides some > basic support here. > Does it? I will look into that. I assume that basic support means making the cookie, GET and POST variables easily accessible. I google, but cannot find any exapmles of this online. >> or the code that >> manages database connections. Functions that escape data to be sent to >> MySQL (to prevent sql injection) would be nice. > > Any DB-API compliant module already provide this - granted you use it > correctly. > I know. This is will use correctly, I promise! >> Other than that, it's >> all on me. > > Your choice... > Hey! Since when am I not under attack? :) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list