On Jun 2, 6:39 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 2, 3:04 pm, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 2, 4:50 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jun 2, 6:41 am, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You are not realizing that only useful(**) thing about data hiding is > > > > that some code has access to the data, other code does not. If you > > > > "hide" data equally from everyone it's just a useless spelling change. > > > > I think you're missing the point. > > > Well that's nice: you're accusing me of missing the point after having > > quoted something I wrote as if it represented by own views, even > > though I footnoted it and said I was only doing it for the sake of > > argument. Perhaps, outside this discussion, I am totally getting "the > > point". > > > I can't tell, though, because I read your post twice and I have no > > idea what you consider "the point" to be. > > Best as I can tell you are claiming that data hiding isn't important, > > but then you go on to imply Python is blemished because it doesn't > > hide data. It really makes no sense: perhaps you can help us out by > > giving us an example of something that illustrates what you're saying? > > I think I made my point abundantly clear. I said that rigorously > denied access to encapsulated data is not important, but a clear > specification of what is intended for the client and what is intended > for internal use *is* important. And an ugly naming convention for > variable and function names is not the best way to do it.
Well let me tell you what's confusing me here: I can't figure out, if this is your standpoint, what issue you could have had with what I said. What specifically did you disagree with? What did I say that was wrong? It seems like we are more in agreement than not. > I suggest you ask yourself why C++, Java, Ada, and probably most other > "object-oriented" languages, have encapsulation or "data hiding." And > no, I am not claiming that *every* application written in Python needs > it, but certainly *some* could benefit from it. I know what it's there for, chief. That's exactly what I was saying to Antoon, and you took issue with it and claimed I was missing the point. What gives? Carl Banks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
