On Sun, 25 May 2008 16:23:12 -0700, NC wrote: >> I didn't say that it's not possible to write good code in PHP, > > Indeed you didn't. You did, however, say that development in Python/ > Django is inherently faster than development in PHP (your exact words > were, "2 man/year in PHP == 2 man/week in Python/Django", implying a > 50-fold difference). This claim has just been obliterated using the > example you (not I) provided; my estimate of two man-years for > developing WordPress turns out to be fairly close to what has actually > gone into the development of Byteflow. In other words, so far we have > discovered no evidence of Python's (or PHP's, to be fair) superiority in > terms of developer's productivity.
In this case (excellent blogging tool), yes, I agree. >> IMHO Python language is better designed > > That is indeed a matter of opinion. You like (among other things) > immutable strings, the off-side rule, the idea that everything is an > object, and the fine distinction between mutable lists and immutable > tuples, and I have no problem with you liking these features, as long as > you agree that other people may have reasons to like the alternatives > better. I agree. We like different things and it's good. >> Yes, it's possible to write something clean in PHP but it would require >> a lot more work. > > In my opinion, it wouldn't, and in my experience, it doesn't. All you > need is to actually put a designer in charge of design. Additionally, > there are situations (rapid prototyping, for example) when > maintainability (the requirement behind the "clean code") is simply not > a concern. It's hard to me to write good PHP. I feel happy programming in Python and I felt very unhappy when I had to program in PHP. I'm glad that you have a different experience. Ivan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
