On 8 Nov 2006 11:49:07 -0800, "John Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >John Salerno wrote: >> Dan Lenski wrote: >> >> > So, is there another toolkit I should be looking at? >> >> I highly recommend wxPython. It's very mature, full-featured, and >> portable, and fairly easy to learn as well. I can't really compare it to >> other toolkits (not having used any of them, except Tkinter), but it's >> definitely one of the most popular and well-supported ones out there. >> >> http://www.wxpython.org/ > >I highly recommend that you try PythonCard (which sits on top of >wxPython). You can get productive very very quickly. Take a look at: > >http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/walkthrough1.html I took a brief look at PythonCard almost a year ago and got discouraged by what I found, so I stopped looking at it. I've inserted my notes from back then, below. Does anybody know if these things have been fixed in the latest release? Bill ===================================================================== My notes from Fri Dec-23-2005: This is a list of gripes I have while trying to learn about PythonCard. I'm trying to investigate various GUI builders for Python, and PythonCard looks promising, but a lot of things are getting in the way. I installed yesterday, using this installer: PythonCard-0.8.1.FIXED.win32.exe A) The very first example in the tutorial is wrong! On this page: http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/documentation.html When you follow this link to try something for the very first time: Getting Started in PythonCard by Dan Shafer: http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/walkthrough1.html You quickly see that the minimal.py example doesn't even contain this line, even though the tutorial refers to it: def on_menuFileAbout_select(self, event): And, of course, if you replace the word "pass" with this, as instructed: result = dialog.alertDialog(self, 'It works!', 'Showing Off') it won't run, because the existing "pass" line isn't inside a def inside of a class. B) Is the Notebook widget really supported? In the installed file "changelog.txt" (gets installed as part of PythonCard installation), it says: "added Notebook component, PageBackground, and testNotebook sample" But, the testNotebook sample is nowhere to be found. I looked lots of places, including the main SourceForge web site, and on the wiki, here: http://wiki.wxpython.org/index.cgi/PythonCard Both the main website and the wiki seem way out of date, and the latest dates I could find on both of them are sometime in 2004. Finally, by following the mailing list archive link on the main website, I managed to find a reference to the notebook component on the ASPN site, where some guy named Brian wonders about the same thing as me, concerning the availability of the notebook component: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/pythoncard/2536825 and, that message led me here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pythoncard/1060 where Kevin Altis admits that he forgot to include it in the 0.8.1 release! At least he provides a way to download it separately. But, gheesh, this is pretty poor for a new user. I was interested in using the notebook component right away, because I looked at the wxGlade tutorial before looking at PythonPage, and they use the notebook component in their example (and I decided I really want to use the component). To add insult to injury, after you download the zip file with the testNotebook stuff, the readme file says this: "Until we have a Notebook integrated into some of the other samples or tools this will serve as a basic test app, but I don't expect to include it in releases." C) Are the websites being maintained? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
