On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 11:14:10 PM UTC+8, Tres Seaver wrote:
>
> That would be your choice.  The contributor agreement leaves intact your 
> rights to your own contributions (you assign a half interest in the 
> copyright, not the whole thing), and allows you to use the entire work 
> under a permissive license.
>
IANAA, does it mean I retain full rights of my copy of the commit
(including right to relicense my copy) and Agendaless has the same rights 
but to
the commit itself ?
 

> The point of the half assignment is to allow for a relicensing of the 
> work, should such be required, without having to find and get agreement 
> from dozens / hundreds of contributors. 
>

It is still unclear why would you need to change the license ? Many 
projects pick
a license once and keep using it without any issues. The act of signing the 
agreement would just assure the non-revocable nature of the commit, and 
everybody
would have peace of mind.
 

> We have had a number of discussions of the issue over the years, 
> including talks with the SFC.  There is no plan currently in place:  it 
> would require setting up a Pylons-project-specific organization, which 
> would depend on having community members devote non-trivial amounts of 
> effort to create and sustain it. 
>
Why would it require pylons-specific org ? There are even 1-man projects 
under 
the umbrella of SFC for example

 

> None of the partners at Agendaless oppose the creation of such an 
> organization, but none of us has the bandwidth / interest to drive its 
> creation, either.  If the community does get such an organiztion created, 
> Agendaless will be pleased to transfer its copyrights in the Pylons / 
> repoze software to it, assuming that the organization's bylaws were 
> reasonable (a promise that the software would continue to be available 
> under a simliarly-permissive license would be the only requirement I can 
> think of now). 
>
That is nice to hear

Contributions will continue to require assignment of half interest. 
> Should the hypothetical organization come into being, all that would 
> change would be the target of that assignment.
>
But if there will be no umbrella foundation, it means the issue will never 
be fixed,
which is very disappointing. The current situation promotes forking 
instead of contribution


Andrey

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