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On 05/13/2017 07:44 PM, Andrey Tretyakov wrote:

> Regarding Pylons Contributors Agreement. I see it as it's against the
>  spirit of free software. I am ok with RPL and liberal licenses in
> general, don't confuse me with GPL zealots, but signing rights
> transfer to a corporate entity would be against my principles, unless
> it is a non-commercial entity with open and transparent governing
> process.

That would be your choice.  The contributor agreement leaves intact your
rights to your own contributions (you assign a half interest in the
copyright, not the whole thing), and allows you to use the entire work
under a permissive license.

The point of the half assignment is to allow for a relicensing of the
work, should such be required, without having to find and get agreement
from dozens / hundreds of contributors.

> I am sure that PCA is a serious barrier preventing many people from 
> contributing to the Pyramid project. There is also related issue that
> (c) Agendaless Consulting copyright notice is present on the
> trypyramid.com website. Corporate copyright notice on a community
> website is a really bad idea in my opinion.
> 
> People mentioned that there was a discussion on transfer of all
> copyright (if needed), branding and trademark (if any) to umbrella
> non-commercial foundation. So what is your official stance on this ?
> What is the current status of the transferral, if any is planned ?

We have had a number of discussions of the issue over the years,
including talks with the SFC.  There is no plan currently in place:  it
would require setting up a Pylons-project-specific organization, which
would depend on having community members devote non-trivial amounts of
effort to create and sustain it.

None of the partners at Agendaless oppose the creation of such an
organization, but none of us has the bandwidth / interest to drive its
creation, either.  If the community does get such an organiztion created,
Agendaless will be pleased to transfer its copyrights in the Pylons /
repoze software to it, assuming that the organization's bylaws were
reasonable (a promise that the software would continue to be available
under a simliarly-permissive license would be the only requirement I can
think of now).

> I think (depending on laws) some form of agreement could be needed,
> but is there any chance that transfer of rights will not be required
> ?

Contributions will continue to require assignment of half interest.
Should the hypothetical organization come into being, all that would
change would be the target of that assignment.


Tres.
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