There is supposed to be some logic to it. Minimum and maximum are always values from the data, so it makes sense to display them in the data's own format. I would have guessed that we do the same for mean, but not necessarily for standard deviation. There may be room for improvement here; I went through and assigned most of these a few months ago (based on what was there already but I did make some new judgments) and I might have gotten some of them wrong.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 12:20 AM Frans Houweling <fhouwel...@email.it> wrote: > I see the point. The variables are indeed F8.2 format. DESCRIPTIVES > created these from F12.4 input variables. > Problem solved. Thanks. > It is interesting that, as you can see from the second DESCRIPTIVES, > Mean and Std Dev do seem to honor SET FORMAT, while Minimum and Maximum > do not. > frans > > > DESCRIPTIVES meanV TO minIR /SAVE. > > Mapping of Variables to Z-scores > +--------------+---------------+ > | Source | Target | > +--------------+---------------+ > |meanV |ZmeanV | > |maxV |ZmaxV | > |minV |ZminV | > |meanDistribV |ZmeanDistribV | > |contrastV |ZcontrastV | > |entropyV |ZentropyV | > |secondAngularV|ZsecondAngularV| > |meanIR |ZmeanIR | > |maxIR |ZmaxIR | > |minIR |ZminIR | > +--------------+---------------+ > > Descriptive Statistics > +--------------------+----+--------+--------+--------+---------+ > | | N | Mean | Std Dev| Minimum| Maximum | > +--------------------+----+--------+--------+--------+---------+ > |meanV |1024| 6.3672| 7.1813| 1.0000| 96.0000| > |maxV |1024|127.5439| 60.0359| 2.0000| 255.0000| > |minV |1024| 40.5364| 30.8521| 1.0273| 167.1484| > |meanDistribV |1024| .0568| .0350| .0000| .1747| > |contrastV |1024|538.8151|474.4201| .0000|3211.4753| > |entropyV |1024| .1233| .1968| .0145| 1.0000| > |secondAngularV |1024| 3.1392| 1.0143| .0000| 4.3828| > |meanIR |1024|186.0801| 33.3433| 1.0000| 250.0000| > |maxIR |1024|243.1426| 8.5934|148.0000| 255.0000| > |minIR |1024|223.3901| 21.6168| 80.3164| 252.9453| > |Valid N (listwise) |1024| | | | | > |Missing N (listwise)| 0| | | | | > +--------------------+----+--------+--------+--------+---------+ > > DESCRIPTIVES ZmeanV TO ZminIR. > > Descriptive Statistics > +-------------------------+----+-----+-------+-------+-------+ > | | N | Mean|Std Dev|Minimum|Maximum| > +-------------------------+----+-----+-------+-------+-------+ > |Z-score of meanV |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -.75| 12.48| > |Z-score of maxV |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -2.09| 2.12| > |Z-score of minV |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -1.28| 4.10| > |Z-score of meanDistribV |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -1.62| 3.37| > |Z-score of contrastV |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -1.14| 5.63| > |Z-score of entropyV |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -.55| 4.45| > |Z-score of secondAngularV|1024|.0000| 1.0000| -3.09| 1.23| > |Z-score of meanIR |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -5.55| 1.92| > |Z-score of maxIR |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -11.07| 1.38| > |Z-score of minIR |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -6.62| 1.37| > |Valid N (listwise) |1024| | | | | > |Missing N (listwise) | 0| | | | | > +-------------------------+----+-----+-------+-------+-------+ > > > > > On 1/9/20 8:54 AM, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > You can get more digits by changing the formats of the variables > > involved, which I guess currently have F8.2 format or some similar > > format with 2 decimal places. > > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:46 PM Frans Houweling <fhouwel...@email.it> > wrote: > >> Hi Ben, it's the "Final Cluster Centers" table I am interested in. > >> > >> > >> Final Cluster Centers > >> +-------------------------+----------------------+ > >> | | Cluster | > >> | +-----+----+-----+-----+ > >> | | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | > >> +-------------------------+-----+----+-----+-----+ > >> |Z-score of meanV | -.43| .06| 3.57| 8.58| > >> |Z-score of maxV |-1.04| .59| 1.10| 1.23| > >> |Z-score of minV | -.94| .46| 2.41| 3.28| > >> |Z-score of meanDistribV |-1.06| .62| .71| -.15| > >> |Z-score of contrastV | -.90| .54| .44| -.51| > >> |Z-score of entropyV | .77|-.45| -.49| -.43| > >> |Z-score of secondAngularV|-1.01| .60| .65| .28| > >> |Z-score of meanIR | .96|-.52|-1.28|-2.76| > >> |Z-score of maxIR | .57|-.19|-2.48|-7.91| > >> |Z-score of minIR | .89|-.43|-2.19|-4.20| > >> +-------------------------+-----+----+-----+-----+ > >> But it's not that important - I was just wondering why I didn't get more > >> digits. > >> Thanks > >> > >> frans > >> > >> > >> On 1/9/20 8:33 AM, Ben Pfaff wrote: > >>> At a glance, it appears that QUICK CLUSTER output contains only two > >>> kinds of values: > >>> - Values that are always integers. PSPP doesn't honor SET FORMAT for > >>> these kinds of values since the decimal places would not be useful. > >>> - Values of particular variables. PSPP uses the variables' own print > >>> formats for these values. > >>> Which values' formats did you want to control? > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:52 PM Frans Houweling <fhouwel...@email.it> > wrote: > >>>> While you're at it, you might check why SET FORMAT has no effect on > the > >>>> output of QUICK CLUSTER (it has on LOGISTIC REGRESSION). I hoped -O > >>>> format=F9.4 would work, but it doesn't. > >>>> Thanks > >>>> frans > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 1/8/20 8:21 AM, John Darrington wrote: > >>>>> I thought that SET WIDTH should also work. > >>>>> > >>>>> Also I thought that when run interactively from a terminal, it should > >>>>> default to the width of the terminal. > >>>>> > >>>>> Perhaps we need to investigate why this is not happening. > >>>>> > >>>>> J' > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:58:59PM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:54 PM Frans Houweling < > fhouwel...@email.it> wrote: > >>>>> > is there any way to prevent text output to wrap at 80 > columns? > >>>>> > I would like to retrieve cluster centers from the output > of QUICK > >>>>> > CLUSTER, but this is hindered by wrapping: > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, you can specify the maximum output width with "-O > width=200" on > >>>>> the command line for 200 columns (or whatever width you > like). >
