I think today that few users (of any OS) distinguish PSPP from PSPPIRE.
We still regularly get people posting to this list asking how to do
something using the GUI with some disclaimer like ("because I can't use
syntax"). Most of the students I've taught SPSS are open to running a
couple lines of syntax, but they get a "deer in the headlights" look
when you show them an analysis in syntax.About re-writing PSPPIRE for Windows, that would be a big job. While having more Windows-specific expertise would be nice, in the meanwhile I am glad that PSPP is available in Windows through Harry's cross-compilation efforts. John and the other developers have worked with Harry to fix bugs that arise only in Windows. If non-developers wanted to help make "PSPP for Windows" better, we should create a testing program to find bugs in the Windows version. -Alan On 2/24/2016 4:33 PM, Frans Houweling wrote: > For those >90%, shouldn't PSPPIRE be called just that instead of "PSPP > for Windows"? The problems we are talking about are merely > cross-platform GUI compatibility issues, and with all due respect (I > like PSPPIRE a lot) I think it's unfair that PSPP's reputation should > suffer from this. > Maybe some day we will have lots of "yet-an-other" or "just-an-other" > graphical front-ends for PSSP. > frans > > > On 02/24/2016 10:08 PM, Alan Mead wrote: >> John, >> >> It sounds like I'm wasting your time appealing to your sympathies for >> >90% of the software users world-wide. That's fine. >> >> On 2/24/2016 2:20 PM, John Darrington wrote: >>> Pspp builds fine for me on a stable Debian release. If you can provide >>> details of the problem preventing you from building on CentOS we will try >>> to address that. >> >> I think it's no more complex than PSPP having library requirements >> that CentOS 6 will never meet (without developer-level efforts). We >> can also see that PSPP's requirements are accelerating away from >> CentOS 6. Here are the details: >> >> *./confgure on pspp-0.8.5 produces:* >> >>> *configure: error: The following required prerequisites are not >>> installed.** >>> **You must install them before PSPP can be built:** >>> ** glib 2.0 version 2.32 or later (or use --without-gui)* >>> >>> [amead@cow3 pspp-0.8.5]$ rpm -qi glib2 >>> Name : glib2 Relocations: (not >>> relocatable) >>> Version : 2.28.8 Vendor: CentOS >>> Release : 4.el6 Build Date: Wed 15 Oct >>> 2014 01:33:45 PM CDT >>> Install Date: Thu 11 Dec 2014 09:14:21 AM CST Build Host: >>> c6b8.bsys.dev.centos.org >>> Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM: >>> glib2-2.28.8-4.el6.src.rpm >>> Size : 8047174 License: LGPLv2+ >>> Signature : RSA/SHA1, Fri 17 Oct 2014 03:02:33 PM CDT, Key ID >>> 0946fca2c105b9de >>> Packager : CentOS BuildSystem <http://bugs.centos.org> >>> URL : http://www.gtk.org >>> Summary : A library of handy utility functions >>> Description : >>> GLib is the low-level core library that forms the basis for projects >>> such as GTK+ and GNOME. It provides data structure handling for C, >>> portability wrappers, and interfaces for such runtime functionality >>> as an event loop, threads, dynamic loading, and an object system. >> >> >> This is the latest version of glib2 provided for CentOS 6. >> >> *./configure on pspp-0.9.0-g072d1b produces this:* >> >>> *configure: error: The following required prerequisites are not >>> installed.** >>> **You must install them before PSPP can be built:** >>> ** gtk+ 3.0 version 3.4.2 or later (or use --without-gui)** >>> ** gtksourceview 3.0 version 3.4.2 or later (or use >>> --without-gui)** >>> ** glib 2.0 version 2.32 or later (or use --without-gui)* >>> >>> [amead@cow3 pspp-0.9.0-g072d1b]$ rpm -qi gtk2 gtksourceview2 >>> Name : gtk2 Relocations: (not >>> relocatable) >>> Version : 2.24.23 Vendor: CentOS >>> Release : 6.el6 Build Date: Fri 17 Oct >>> 2014 04:22:08 AM CDT >>> Install Date: Thu 11 Dec 2014 09:14:37 AM CST Build Host: >>> c6b9.bsys.dev.centos.org >>> Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM: >>> gtk2-2.24.23-6.el6.src.rpm >>> Size : 12452995 License: LGPLv2+ >>> Signature : RSA/SHA1, Fri 17 Oct 2014 03:01:59 PM CDT, Key ID >>> 0946fca2c105b9de >>> Packager : CentOS BuildSystem <http://bugs.centos.org> >>> URL : http://www.gtk.org >>> Summary : The GIMP ToolKit (GTK+), a library for creating GUIs for X >>> Description : >>> GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user >>> interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for >>> projects ranging from small one-off tools to complete application >>> suites. >>> Name : gtksourceview2 Relocations: (not >>> relocatable) >>> Version : 2.8.2 Vendor: CentOS >>> Release : 4.el6 Build Date: Thu 11 Nov >>> 2010 10:43:31 PM CST >>> Install Date: Fri 11 Nov 2011 03:45:16 PM CST Build Host: >>> c5b2.bsys.dev.centos.org >>> Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM: >>> gtksourceview2-2.8.2-4.el6.src.rpm >>> Size : 2961012 License: LGPLv2+ and >>> GPLv2+ >>> Signature : RSA/8, Sat 02 Jul 2011 11:20:47 PM CDT, Key ID >>> 0946fca2c105b9de >>> Packager : CentOS BuildSystem <http://bugs.centos.org> >>> URL : http://gtksourceview.sourceforge.net/ >>> Summary : A library for viewing source files >>> Description : >>> GtkSourceView is a text widget that extends the standard GTK+ >>> GtkTextView widget. It improves GtkTextView by implementing >>> syntax highlighting and other features typical of a source code editor. >>> >>> This package contains version 2 of GtkSourceView. The older version >>> 1 is contains in the gtksourceview package. >> >> There is no package for CentOS 6 that supplies GTK+ 3 or >> gtksourceview 3 and glib 2.28.8 is the latest glib for CentOS 6. >> >> -Alan >> >> >> -- >> >> Alan D. Mead, Ph.D. >> President, Talent Algorithms Inc. >> >> science + technology = better workers >> >> +815.588.3846 (Office) >> +267.334.4143 (Mobile) >> >> http://www.alanmead.org >> >> I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe... >> functions on fire in a copy of Orion. >> I watched C-Sharp glitter in the dark near a programmable gate. >> All those moments will be lost in time, like Ruby... on... Rails... Time for >> Pi. >> >> --"The Register" user Alister, applying the famous >> "Blade Runner" speech to software development >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pspp-users mailing list >> Pspp-users@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pspp-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pspp-users mailing list > Pspp-users@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pspp-users -- Alan D. Mead, Ph.D. President, Talent Algorithms Inc. science + technology = better workers +815.588.3846 (Office) +267.334.4143 (Mobile) http://www.alanmead.org I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe... functions on fire in a copy of Orion. I watched C-Sharp glitter in the dark near a programmable gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like Ruby... on... Rails... Time for Pi. --"The Register" user Alister, applying the famous "Blade Runner" speech to software development
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