El 18/11/12 01:33, Charlie Coleman escribió:
At 09:07 AM 11/17/2012 -0600, lelandj wrote:
Leland, try to take off your liberal-at-any-cost hat for a moment and
think sincerely about the following:
Petraeus may have done a lot of good things but his resignation is
appropriate. And the revealing of it by the Intelligence Community
is absolutely right and just.
...
Why should one group of Americans be held to a higher standard than
the whole. Why should the government, including the intelligence
community, be allow to meddle into the personal affairs of
Americans? LOL - pun intended. The founding fathers of the USA,
having experienced first hand persecution, torture, alienation, and
other injustice from their governments, put strong privacy
protections into the USA Constitution to protect Americans against an
overreaching government.
...
First, the "why". Why should government officials be held to a higher
standard? Because their office reflects a trust of the citizens. I
hold my trusted friends to a higher standard of conduct with me than,
say, I expect out of total strangers. So to me, if I give you my trust
you should expect that I expect more out of you. I believe our
Founding Fathers saw it this way as well: their correspondence intoned
a public office in our union engendered the utmost responsibility to
those governed. Next, governmental positions have power over others.
So any given action they take has a far greater potential to affect
people than just an average citizen.
Absolutely agree!
You don't want a country where govt officials are not held accountable.
Trust me, I do live in one such country.
The above is the general ethical/moral view. But lets talk about
common sense for a moment. Any official that commits illegal,
unethical, or even anything that may be personally embarrassing
becomes a risk to their office. They become a target for blackmail or
bribery. For example, a city councilman has an affair with an underage
girl. A certain shady set of folks get photos and threaten to go
public if the councilman doesn't change his vote on a zoning issue.
The same scenario holds for those with access to classified
information. This is the common sense reason why they must be held to
higher codes of conduct. If you don't want to live by that code, don't
try to get a job with the government.
Now I think this is a little too much. Illegal, ok as we just said he
should be held accountable. But personal embarrassment? If he helds an
elected position he might not be voted next time, but we should not
overreact. Besides, who decides what is embarrassing and what is not? You?
Any officer may be target to bribery, has nothing to do with
embarrassment. As for blackmail, if embarrassing acts are not punishable
then there is nothing to blackmail him with.
You Yanks are obsessed with sex and stuff, probably should have dated
more when you where young.
How about you get a brain Leland? The fact that we're NOT the Taliban
means our government officials MUST answer to us. If we were a
dictatorship or socialistic government then sure, the folks in charge
could do whatever they want to whomever they want whenever they want.
Think about that for at least a couple minutes.
Actually, Taliban officials MUST answer for their actions, and if they
behave against the Kuran they will certainly be killed.
But I imagine you would be the first in line to string up an official
that didn't share your liberal bias. You're a walking contradiction to
rational thinking. And like I said, you're not alone. There's a bunch
of other people out there that's let their mind deteriorate to the
point of just repeating the brief snippets they get from their
favorite liberal news outlet or web site.
I see, so the only people who just repeat "the brief snippets they get"
are liberals? LOL
And for me personally I'm totally at peace that things will be OK. A
thousand years from now this situation will be meaningless to me.
Yep, a thousand years from now the fact that YOU LOST to Obama will be
meaningless. So why don't you stop whining right now?
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