On 11/16/2012 06:07 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote:
At 05:59 AM 11/15/2012 -0600, lelandj wrote:
On 11/15/2012 03:12 AM, Michael Madigan wrote:
She was set up by the White House.
I don't think so. It was the CIA that feed Susan Rice the faulty
information, if it was in fact faulty. I'm not sure who arranged to
have her appear on Meet the Press shortly thereafter. The
investigation of the Benghazi attack continues,
...
Anyway, It also seems to me that David Petraeus was setup by the
intelligence community. After the FBI found evidence of an extra
Martial affair, and confirmed it by confronting both CIA Director
David Petraeus and Paula Broadwell ,
...
...If the CIA really wanted to protect Petraeus, his affair could
have remained under wraps...
No, no a thousand times no. Absolutely every citizen of the United
States needs to demand truth from its leaders. I don't care if it's a
local County official, the head of the FBI, a popular Republican
Senator, or the President. Every single governmental official is
living off the blood and sweat of others. They should have no rights
above ours, and in fact should be held to a much higher standard of
conduct. The mistakes they make can have far-reaching impacts to the
whole nation.
Charlie, this the USA; not Iraq, Iran, or Afghanistan. You need to be
able to distinguish between moral issue and legal issues. In some
countries these two separate things become entangled. You should also
recognize the difference between civil law and criminal law. You should
also recognize that a person's personal life is separate from their life
on the job, and each of us has the a right, under the USA Constitution,
to keep our personal life private. Rights of every American should fall
under the same standard. Nobody should be afforded special right and
privileges, nor should anyone be subject to a higher standard that
normal. This requires equal treatment.
The scale of justice should be both blind and balanced. ---- Leland Jackson
So, no, politicians, political appointees, judges, all of them need to
be held to the highest standards. We've stopped doing that and we're
in a decline because of it.
I'm not seeing it. Could you give me some verifiable examples.
Petraeus may have done a lot of good things but his resignation is
appropriate. And the revealing of it by the Intelligence Community is
absolutely right and just. Let's hope that the thousands of other
politicians take note and try to clean up their act. At least while
they're in office. And let's hope the Intelligence Community continues
to monitor all officials' correspondence and brings the truth to light.
Why should one group of Americans be held to a higher standard than the
whole. Why should the government, including the intelligence community,
be allow to meddle into the personal affairs of Americans? LOL - pun
intended. The founding fathers of the USA, having experienced first
hand persecution, torture, alienation, and other injustice from their
governments, put strong privacy protections into the USA Constitution to
protect Americans against an overreaching government.
But Leland's thoughts reflect the general sentiment of the country.
Since Clinton got away with lying about his affair the nation has
dropped it's expectations of elected officials dramatically (no it
wasn't "all" Clinton's fault, we have been declining for probably 40
years - but the Clinton debacle was a leap downwards). People in the
US need to wake up. But I'm sure they won't. We've been dumbed down to
blindly accept what the boob-tube spouts out in 15-second sound-bites.
We don't want to "question" and "think" - we want to be entertained.
We want promises that we'll get something for nothing. We certainly
don't want to hear about working hard and moral issues. And for some
reason we believe the wealthy has cheated the rest of us and that they
should be forced to give up their money/property to be fair.
Adversaries of the US and democracy in general can rejoice. The Great
Experiment is winding down, proving out once again that man's greed
and jealousy outweigh his intelligence.
Get a life, Charlie. It really is OK. We're not the Taliban here in
the good old USA. LOL
Regards,
LelandJ
-Charlie
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