Yeah - Ted - I saw the ZDnet stuff - as I get their e-mail blasts - but,
other techies I know - they hate ZDNet - so, not sure what to trust...
I have an app - and a general DB system I may build (although - due to
lack of funding for now - its on hold - and, suffice it to say - the
whole DB system isn't my idea - just something I was approached with) -
and it would be cool to be able to stick with VFP and run it on these
MS suckers.
I understood that the "Pro" versions are a bit more "on hold" than the
Arm versions. I think its funny. Why call them Pro?
But, maybe they have potential. For me - as of now - its always MUCH
faster for me to develop in VFP - since "that's my bag". As such, these
MS thingies may hold some potential. Their marketing video sure made it
look HOT - but, I know for sure - its ALL Marketing - and marketing can
hype ANYTHING - and, as you said - Vapor-HWare, and, from my 3D CG
background - I know if you throw enough $$$ @ things - you can make
ANYTHING Look REAL and even SEXY - using 3D CG!
:-)
-K-
On 6/19/2012 8:32 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
> Well, as far as VFP goes, I'd like to learn if VFP will run on the
> high-end "full-Windows-8-Professional" tablets. I have my doubts
> because all of the tablets appear to be ARM-based processors and the
> VFP runtime, I have been told, is compiled C++ code with a bit of x86
> assembler mixed in. So, I think it, and everything else that runs on
> Win8-x86, would need to be recompiled to run on the new platform. I
> doubt MS will port VFP. I'll be interested in what they will do with
> DotNet.
>
> [UPDATE: I've been told this isn't true, and the high-end platforms
> will be Intel CPUs. Maybe good news for VFP, but for the Surface
> brand, hunh? Windows NT was available for Intell, PowerPC and an NEC
> CPU, iirc. How'd that work out? This is dumb.]
>
> It seems to me that targeting my offerings on HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript
> platform is a better bet than writing apps on any proprietary
> platform, Apple, Android or Microsoft. A tablet is a low-power device
> not suitable for intense database work (an argument we used with
> PalmPilots, too) but that trades the complexity of connecting to a
> backend (and caching, and offline updates, etc.) in client-server
> fashion for the power savings. Web stacks are fairly mature
> technologies (although the varied levels of standard support is, and
> probably always will be, maddening) and allow you to build reasonably
> complex apps that will run on iOS, Win8RT, Android, or even plain old
> legacy form factors like laptops and desktops running Windows, OSX or
> Linux.
>
> I'd like to learn more about the hardware involved. It seems neither
> fish nor fowl. Littler than a laptop (even a Mac Air or an Ultrabook),
> funny keyboard, nice screen. I'm an atypical user - there are likely a
> dozen 'puters in the office from micros to laptops to tablets to
> desktops and servers - but with clear task delineations. This reminds
> me a bit of the Subaru Baja - too small a bed to be a practical
> pickup, too small a cab to be a station wagon, no trunk for the
> groceries; really an oddball. In being all things to all people, is it
> a mediocre experience for all?
>
> Since MS has dropped this as vapor-hard-ware ('shipping Q3'?), no
> price, no specs it seems we'll have lots of time to speculate, read
> reviews of early pre-production models, and likely see something
> different from the demo by the time it ships, perhaps in time for
> Xmas. At least it'll keep the trade press busy for the summer...
>
>
> "Okay, let me get this straight. Did Microsoft just kill the Windows
> tablet OEM market?"
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/diy-it/okay-let-me-get-this-straight-did-microsoft-just-kill-the-windows-tablet-oem-market/614
>
> Surface: Microsoft, What the Hell is Wrong With You?
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/surface-microsoft-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you/20599
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Kevin Cully
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What am I going to do? Wait a month or two and see what happens.
>> Especially to see if this is different in market performance from the
>> other Microsoft offerings over the last several years.
>>
>> What am I NOT going to do? Run right out and plunk down some coin on an
>> unproven product.
>>
>> Wait and see. I think this situation warrants that behavior.
>>
>>
>> On 06/19/2012 11:24 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>>> Customers like to buy new shinny stuff don't hey?
>>>
>>> <http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/microsoft-surface-tablets-unveiled/#ixzz1yFbxveR4>
>>> h
>>>
>>>
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