I've been posting on this mailer for the past 2 days and I have posted my 
configuration file as we as my mail log which demonstrates a problem with 
Postix where it is using network interfaces it shouldn't be using, as per the 
documentation. This is the first time I have seen you here, so, perhaps you 
should STFU before telling me to crawl before run and RTFM.

Also, stop thinking Postfix is flawless. You are living in a fantasy land. Lots 
of pilots thought their autopilot software was flawless, too, only to end up 
being killed by it.


K



> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2023 at 5:51 am
> From: "Antonio Leding" <t...@leding.net>
> To: "Kolusion K" <kolus...@post.com>
> Cc: "Kolusion K via Postfix-users" <postfix-users@postfix.org>
> Subject: Re: [pfx] Contradicting Postfix documentation
> 
> This looks a network and config issue rather than any defect in PF be 
> that with the code or the docs...
> 
> I would highly recommend you crawl before you try running so with that 
> in mind, scale back your config to just use v4 and get that working.  
> Also, if you really want help on this mailer, post both your main and 
> master config files so the community understands exactly what your 
> system is cfg’d to do.  Otherwise, it is doubtful folks will wanna 
> spend the time especially when your position is that you don’t need to 
> put in the same effort we all have done - i.e. seeing value in RTFM.
> 
> I can truly say that in the 13+ years I’ve been using PF, all of the 
> config and operational issues I’ve had were covered in the docs…
> 
> - - -
> 
> On 2 May 2023, at 20:28, Kolusion K via Postfix-users wrote:
> 
> > Disabling IPv6 probably isn't an acceptable workaround anyway. What 
> > happens if both an IPv4 and IPv6 IP address is listed? Postfix may 
> > still use other network interfaces not listed (IP addresses).
> >
> > Changing the parameter name wouldn't be a bad idea either seeing 
> > parameter values are actually IP addresses and not interface names, as 
> > the parameter name suggests.
> >
> > K
> >
> >
> >
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2023 at 5:11 am
> >> From: "Kolusion K via Postfix-users" <postfix-users@postfix.org>
> >> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> >> Subject: [pfx] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: Re: Contradicting Postfix 
> >> documentation
> >>
> >> Postfix needs to be patched so that the value of the inet_interfaces 
> >> parameter is obeyed regardless of whether or not IPv6 (or other IP 
> >> versions?) is enabled.
> >>
> >> K
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2023 at 4:57 am
> >>> From: "Kolusion K via Postfix-users" <postfix-users@postfix.org>
> >>> To: "Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users" <postfix-users@postfix.org>
> >>> Subject: [pfx] Re: Fw: Re: Re: Contradicting Postfix documentation
> >>>
> >>> Its not naive, its a fact- Postfix is broken. The inet_interfaces 
> >>> parameter is described in the documentation as making Postfix use 
> >>> only the interfaces listed for the parameter. In reality, Postfix 
> >>> ignores the parameter by using network interfaces that are not 
> >>> listed.
> >>>
> >>> There is nothing mentioned in the Postfix documentation under the 
> >>> inet_interfaces parameter section that says the inet_interfaces 
> >>> parameter is for IPv4 only and that it will not have an effect on 
> >>> IPv6 interfaces. That claim is your fairy tale.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> K
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2023 at 5:57 pm
> >>>> From: "Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users" 
> >>>> <postfix-users@postfix.org>
> >>>> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> >>>> Subject: [pfx] Re: Fw: Re: Re: Contradicting Postfix documentation
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 04:45:13PM +0200, Kolusion K via 
> >>>> Postfix-users wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hang on a second... my Postfix is using a network interface that 
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> not the one set with the inet_interfaces parameter. So, my 
> >>>>> experience
> >>>>> is true- the inet_interfaces parameter has no effect.
> >>>>
> >>>> No, it has exactly the documented effects, perhaps different from 
> >>>> your
> >>>> naïve expectations for your particular use case.  This is not the 
> >>>> forum
> >>>> to seek "validation", the most you can expect from this list is
> >>>> technical help to configure Postfix to meet your stated 
> >>>> requirements.
> >>>>
> >>>>     - The IPv4 addresses listed in inet_interfaces have no effect 
> >>>> on
> >>>>       the choice of outbound IPv6 address when IPv6 is enabled.
> >>>>
> >>>>     - When inet_interfaces list no IPv4 addresses other than 
> >>>> loopback
> >>>>       addresses, or lists multiple non-loopback IPv4 addresses, 
> >>>> then
> >>>>       inet_interfaces also has no effect on the choice of outbound 
> >>>> IPv4
> >>>>       addresses.
> >>>>
> >>>> - To be sure that a particular IPv4 or IPv6 source address is used,
> >>>>   configure an explicit "smtp_bind_address" or 
> >>>> "smtp_bind_address6".
> >>>> - To be sure that IPv6 is not used, set "inet_protocols = ipv4".
> >>>> - To be sure that IPv4 is not used, set "inet_protocols = ipv6".
> >>>>
> >>>> - If you have just one IPv4 address suitable for both sending and
> >>>>   receiving mail, set it as the only IPv4 address in 
> >>>> inet_interfaces.
> >>>>   You then don't need an explicit "smtp_bind_address", though an
> >>>>   explicit setting may be sensible in some cases.
> >>>> - If you have just one IPv6 address suitable for both sending and
> >>>>   receiving mail, set it as the only IPv6 address in 
> >>>> inet_interfaces.
> >>>>   You then don't need an explicit "smtp_bind_address6", though an
> >>>>   explicit setting may be sensible in some cases.
> >>>> - In either case disable any protocol that is not at all suitable 
> >>>> for
> >>>>   receiving or sending email.
> >>>>
> >>>> -- 
> >>>>     Viktor.
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