On 23 Nov 2020, at 13:24, Bob Proulx <b...@proulx.com> wrote:
> Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
>> Dnia 23.11.2020 o godz. 10:18:39 D'Arcy Cain pisze:
>>> After the first message was accepted all of the rest
>>> were silently dropped as duplicates due to a very standard procmail
>>> recipe:
>>> 
>>> :0 Wh: msgid.lock
>>> | formail -D 65536 $HOME/.msgid.cache
>> 
>> Who uses that? It's not normal to get email duplicates and it usually
>> means that mail system is not functioning properly. They should find the
>> cause of the duplicates and eliminate it instead of hiding symptoms...
> 
> Although I have been using procmail since the inception of it I have
> always found this type rule problematic.  Because for me it keeps the
> wrong message.  If I am sent a direct copy and a mailing list copy
> then the copy I want is the mailing list copy.

Since my list filters looked at the to and CC headers this wasn't an issue.

> But so many people use Gmail these days that they have gotten used to
> the way Gmail does things.  And Gmail de-duplicates and saves the
> first message with any particular message-id that arrives.  And then
> displays a "mailbox" showing a view of the current tag being
> displayed.  It's a very different paradigm from having separate
> mailbox folders for different topics.

I don't use Gmail much, but my primary sort criteria now is a series of smart 
searches in Mail.app.

List mail al goes into a single "List" mailbox, then a smart search shows me, 
for example, all the postfix-users messages as a virtual mailbox.

The means that I rarely see the messages sent directly to me instead of the 
list because I don't generally read the "list" mailbox directly. Every now and 
then I archive all the list messages which takes them out of the smart 
mailboxes. (I could automate that action, but I haven't for reasons).

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        with the great cycles of Nature, and do no harm to anyone, and
        it's wicked of them to say we don't. We ought to fill their bones
        with hot lead.'

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