Thank you for your time and long explanation. It was really helpful for me.

Bill Cole <postfixlists-070...@billmail.scconsult.com>, 12 Ağu 2020 Çar,
01:10 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

> On 11 Aug 2020, at 10:48, jin&hitman&Barracuda wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'ld like to ask some questions about filtering/scanning mails. I'm
> > using
> > Postfix-3.4.14 in my setup. However, the questions aren't directly
> > related
> > with Postfix but, as a newbie I don't have such an opportunity to ask
> > this
> > kind of questions to anyone except this list, so please accept my
> > apologies.
> > I need a design which allows me to scan/check e-mails (the DATA
> > portion)
> > against some words stored in the SQL table. Actually, there are two
> > tables stored in the same SQL DB which are named "white" and "black".
> > As
> > you probably guess, white db table contains the words acceptable and
> > black
> > contains the contrary.
>
> To what end?
>
> If the goal is to filter "spam" (specifically: unsolicited bulk email)
> then I agree with Dr. Venema: try SpamAssassin, either with the
> single-purpose spamass-milter or via some more comprehensive milter like
> MIMEDefang or Amavis. However you hook up SpamAssassin to Postfix, it
> will not make a simple binary decision on filtering based on trivial SQL
> tables as described, because that mechanism is completely inadequate for
> spam filtering. SA does include a Naive Bayesian statistical filter that
> can run out of a SQL RDBMS, and I suppose one could train that filter
> artificially to behave much like simple allow/deny lists of words, but I
> would not recommend that approach. SA is not designed or intended to
> operate as a generic filter, it is only really useful for spam
> filtering. (Full disclosure: I don't speak for the SpamAssassin Project,
> but I am a member of the PMC.)
>
> If the goal is the process, i.e. to use simple allow/deny lists of words
> in a SQL DB to categorize messages, then SpamAssassin in any normal sort
> of configuration is not the right tool. If you can write a relatively
> small amount of Perl, then MIMEDefang might be. It is a general
> filtering framework which CAN use SA and other filtering tools, but it
> is customized by writing Perl subroutines and designed to do complex
> message manipulation, so it could be used as a platform for the sort of
> filtering that you propose.
>
> > When I try to find a method, I've found milter
> > options. There are many milters out there and they offer different
> > features. Looks like i have to write one to serve my requirements.
> > But, I
> > still don't know the answers of the questions listed below.
> >
> > - Are there any other options that allow me to scan a mail against
> > values
> > stored in an SQL database ?
>
> I am aware of no such tool for use with Postfix or any other MTA. For
> the purposes that most people want to filter mail, that mechanism is
> just too simplistic.
>
> > - If the only way is using a milter to achieve this goal, when exactly
> > i
> > should send it to the milter ? Does it matter ?
>
> I'm not clear on what you mean by that...
>
> A milter registers callback routines with the MTA based on what aspects
> of the SMTP transaction it wants to filter. Since you are filtering the
> message body, you'd need to register xxfi_body() and xxfi_eom()
> callbacks if you build a custom milter. Postfix makes those calls
> synchronously at the end of the SMTP DATA command, the only time when it
> has message data.
>
> > - (Sorry for this one but, let me ask this specific question once.)
> > Instead
> > of writing a new milter, can I use "proxsmtp" project for that purpose
> > ?
>
> I'm not familiar with it, but it appears to be a SMTP proxy, not a
> milter. It may or may not work with Postfix's proxy interface. Whether
> you can make it filter mail in the manner you desire, I do not kn ow.
>
> --
> Bill Cole
> b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org
> (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses)
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>


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