On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 09:34 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
> I reduced the blacklists I use because every now and then I find my own 
> servers on them when I know for a fact there was no unsolicited mail 
> from them.

I'm in the same boat -- but typically want to know IF I'm on a list, especially 
if not legitimately, so I can remediate asap.

> I think what happens is sometimes a Barracuda firewall is mis-configured 
> and flags something as spam that isn't and it gets on blacklists as a 
> result.

I use postscreen with a multi-DNSBL check, scoring/weighting results.  I've 
certainly found lists that incorrectly have a sender on them, but to date I've 
never caught a FP where the sender's on multiple, disparate lists.

Fwiw, I found this 

http://rob0.nodns4.us/postscreen.html

to be a great!! guide to thinking it through and setting it up.

> Off topic I'm about to stop using DMARC for the same reason. I'll still 
> use SPF and DKIM but with DMARC I end up getting huge amounts of 
> notification, largely from mail lists that are posted to, and I almost 
> never have gotten a notification that is the result of someone spoofing 
> a domain.
> 
> I like the concept of DMARC but I think it needs a better implementation.

Hm.  I added DMARC a little while ago; opendmarc integrates with Postfix nicely.

To date, I've caught a bunch of spoofs, and, so far, have noticed no probs.

As for notifications -- are you getting them in all cases, pass & fail?  You 
can certainly tune the notification policy.  For my use, I use DMarcian 
(https://dmarcian.com/), turn OFF notifications in the PASS case, only 
notifying in the FAIL case, and regularly monitor @ the DMarcian site to watch 
what's going in over time.

Jason

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