Den 21.03.2016 18.47, skrev Viktor Dukhovni:
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 12:18 PM, David Schweikert <da...@schweikert.ch> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder what the Postfix community thinks or plans to do according to
>> this standard that is being written:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-margolis-smtp-sts/?include_text=1
> 
> My take on the draft is that it is a hack to get the large email providers
> doing SMTP TLS with authentication amongst themselves while they take multiple
> years to ponder DNSSEC, which can be tricky to retrofit onto their complex
> deployments.  The draft still has warts to iron out, I'll help them with 
> those.
> 
> I am not convinced this scales down at all well, but there will likely be 
> demand
> for securing outbound email traffic sent to the large providers.  I am not a 
> big
> fan of code to support the centralized email storage model of the large 
> providers,
> but that battle is lost for now.

Alex Stamos at Facebook has publicly & repeatedly stated that DNSSEC is
"dead". I guess that means no RFC 7672 at Facebook. With him making that
statement I already know others taking the same position. There seems to
be a strong anti-dnssec crowd, complaining primarily on these  issues:

1) Government access / possible interference with dnssec
2) Weak encryption (1024 bit keys)
3) Complexity of configuration & maintenance
4) "only 1 bit to tell you if things are ok or not"
5) DoS capabilities (ppl forget there are other & easier ways)

Google public DNS supports DNSSEC, but afaik no other part of Google
uses it. Although this proposal can live with or without DNSSEC, I am
wondering if Google, Microsoft, Linkedin & other major companies has any
plans to deploy DNSSEC and RFC7672. Or will this proposal be a shorter &
easier step forward, eventually delaying or simply ignoring RFC7672 for
the foreseeable future?

Regards,
Per

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