On 02/28/2016 05:46 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 02:26 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> >>> If there are more than one or two files in the out/ queue, and if the >>> smtp log has successive entries of the form >> >> there are 38 files in there at preseent >> -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 4441 Feb 28 16:57 >> 1456690111.419805+dd7dabe9420b90aad8e72ee0607a4eb015fb9976.pck >> -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 21731 Feb 28 16:33 >> 1456695234.857981+952d2cfb1cfa9559943dc335ca8eced7d26aaa6f.pck >> -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 30549 Feb 28 16:33 >> 1456695235.935237+55c1c60ede5771fa2960a0460011f82266dbcb8b.pck >> -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 26009 Feb 28 16:33 >> 1456695236.069412+c268ffc9dfded5c93d3b3048831f058e184dd576.pck >> www:/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/out # ls -al |wc >> 38 335 4028 > > > This indicates a serious backlog. > > >>> >>> Feb 28 08:55:43 2016 (30307) <mesage-id> smtp to list for nnn recips, >>> completed in t.ttt seconds >> >> this is the postfix mail log? > > > No. Look at Mailman's smtp log. This may be /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp > or /usr/local/mailman/logs/smtp or /var/log/mailman/smtp or somewhere > else depending on how mailman was installed > > >>> with each messages time stamp being t.ttt seconds later than the >>> preceding message, the out/ queue is backlogged. If that is the case, >>> Mailman isn't able to deliver fast enough to Postfix to keep up with >>> it's volume. >
Evidently... So what might be a fix? Because whatever it is it doesn't affect other mail. :( Feb 28 17:17:18 2016 (29233) <CAJS-itcfOi9J2dgX0U_+NR=RkywLeBgvgoE2z67TVL=of71...@mail.gmail.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.241 seconds Feb 28 17:18:27 2016 (29233) <56d30c67.7070...@mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.239 seconds Feb 28 17:19:37 2016 (29233) <56d311f1.8080...@mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.240 seconds Feb 28 17:20:46 2016 (29233) <56d336aa.7060...@crossroadstech.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.247 seconds Feb 28 17:21:55 2016 (29233) <56d2f8d0.8080...@verizon.net> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.229 seconds Feb 28 17:23:27 2016 (29233) <20160222074941.b47c9c...@s8.hostlocal.com> smtp to hangout for 69 recips, completed in 91.821 seconds Feb 28 17:24:37 2016 (29233) <56cd2795.4020...@mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.305 seconds Feb 28 17:25:46 2016 (29233) <56ce7ef5.6020...@mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.235 seconds Feb 28 17:26:56 2016 (29233) <50797049-1456397806-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1607713858-@b1.c1.bise6.blackberry> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.238 seconds Feb 28 17:28:05 2016 (29233) <20160226060443.ga18...@www.mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.249 seconds Feb 28 17:29:14 2016 (29233) <20160226073323.gd20...@linuxmafia.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.227 seconds Feb 28 17:30:24 2016 (29233) <e1azltt-00007s...@crmserver1p.fsf.org> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.236 seconds Feb 28 17:31:33 2016 (29233) <20160227045303.gh20...@linuxmafia.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.364 seconds Feb 28 17:32:42 2016 (29233) <20160227080928.gh12...@linuxmafia.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.198 seconds Feb 28 17:33:52 2016 (29233) <56d28f54.1050...@mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.465 seconds Feb 28 17:35:02 2016 (29233) <20160228063512.gb14...@www.mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.229 seconds Feb 28 17:36:11 2016 (29233) <caay8basgqf4qkg61abo_g-gj5qgnvzucntsurrymrvrkh0c...@mail.gmail.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.301 seconds Feb 28 17:37:20 2016 (29233) <CADJGPb-C-HMRGg-b5onMzywZaWdw=tf+inbuag6gxd7tvym...@mail.gmail.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.282 seconds Feb 28 17:38:30 2016 (29233) <CADJGPb-C-HMRGg-b5onMzywZaWdw=tf+inbuag6gxd7tvym...@mail.gmail.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.288 seconds Feb 28 17:39:39 2016 (29233) <CADJGPb-BUXSV=wutyiy8ofgtuteh_kpp4xfqkxoqv3zbky4...@mail.gmail.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.430 seconds Feb 28 17:40:49 2016 (29233) <329326e7-8acc-4757-888e-098e49800...@nyu.edu> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.247 seconds Feb 28 17:41:58 2016 (29233) <20160228064203.ga14...@www.mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.225 seconds Feb 28 17:43:07 2016 (29233) <20160228071130.ga15...@www.mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.242 seconds Feb 28 17:44:17 2016 (29233) <56d2a094.7090...@mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.230 seconds Feb 28 17:45:26 2016 (29233) <56d2a251.5070...@my.liu.edu> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.223 seconds Feb 28 17:46:36 2016 (29233) <56d2a458.8020...@mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.499 seconds Feb 28 17:47:45 2016 (29233) <20160228075600.ga16...@www.mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.254 seconds Feb 28 17:48:54 2016 (29233) <56d2b699.4000...@mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.241 seconds Feb 28 17:50:04 2016 (29233) <56d2ba1c.9010...@mrbrklyn.com> smtp to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.190 seconds On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 05:28:21PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 02/28/2016 07:29 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> > >> No, I mean I send messages and they don't show up for a half hour even > >> in the postfix logs.... > > > > > > Assuming Mailman 2.1.x, the usual cause of this is a backlogged 'out' > > queue in Mailman. Look at Mailman's 'smtp' log, and look at how many > > files are in Mailman's qfiles/out/ directory (/var/spool/mailman/out in > > some packages). > > > > If there are more than one or two files in the out/ queue, and if the > > smtp log has successive entries of the form > > there are 38 files in there at preseent > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 4441 Feb 28 16:57 > 1456690111.419805+dd7dabe9420b90aad8e72ee0607a4eb015fb9976.pck > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 21731 Feb 28 16:33 > 1456695234.857981+952d2cfb1cfa9559943dc335ca8eced7d26aaa6f.pck > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 30549 Feb 28 16:33 > 1456695235.935237+55c1c60ede5771fa2960a0460011f82266dbcb8b.pck > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 26009 Feb 28 16:33 > 1456695236.069412+c268ffc9dfded5c93d3b3048831f058e184dd576.pck > www:/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/out # ls -al |wc > 38 335 4028 > > > > > > > Feb 28 08:55:43 2016 (30307) <mesage-id> smtp to list for nnn recips, > > completed in t.ttt seconds > > this is the postfix mail log? > > > like this? > > 2016-02-28T17:17:14.802128-05:00 www postfix/qmgr[21586]: 0F2FB1616D8: > from=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, size=6960, nrcpt=41 (queue active) > 2016-02-28T17:17:14.857414-05:00 www postfix/qmgr[21586]: 7C884163D99: > from=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, size=4936, nrcpt=42 (queue active) > 2016-02-28T17:17:14.876153-05:00 www postfix/qmgr[21586]: 7E61E1616C8: > from=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, size=5354, nrcpt=40 (queue active) > 2016-02-28T17:17:14.893215-05:00 www postfix/qmgr[21586]: 15E131617B9: > from=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, size=3740, nrcpt=41 (queue active) > > and this > 2016-02-28T17:17:43.841701-05:00 www postfix/local[667]: 47291163DA1: > to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=0.55, > delays=0.03/0/0/0.51, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: > /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) > > 18260985136, Hostname=BLUPR09MB0181.namprd09.prod.outlook.com] 12753 bytes in > 0.183, 67.784 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery) > 2016-02-28T15:51:56.553321-05:00 www postfix/local[25454]: E763B163D9C: > to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=0.61, delays=0.1/0/0/0.51, > dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman > bounces hangout) > 2016-02-28T15:52:24.710239-05:00 www postfix/local[25458]: 18326163D9A: > to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=0.61, > delays=0.09/0/0/0.51, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: > /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) > 2016-02-28T16:06:18.504031-05:00 www postfix/local[25619]: A874B163DA1: > to=<hang...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=1.4, delays=0.88/0.02/0/0.52, > dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman > post hangout) > 2016-02-28T16:33:54.960832-05:00 www postfix/local[26033]: 0A854163DA2: > to=<hang...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=1, delays=0.17/0.05/0/0.79, > dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman > post hangout) > 2016-02-28T17:12:16.334190-05:00 www postfix/local[561]: BA2A3163DA2: > to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=1.6, > delays=0.19/0.04/0/1.4, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: > /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) > 2016-02-28T17:12:16.342511-05:00 www postfix/local[513]: ADAD9163DA1: > to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=1.6, > delays=0.05/0.01/0/1.6, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: > /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) > 2016-02-28T17:17:43.841701-05:00 www postfix/local[667]: 47291163DA1: > to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=0.55, > delays=0.03/0/0/0.51, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: > /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) > > > > > > with each messages time stamp being t.ttt seconds later than the > > preceding message, the out/ queue is backlogged. If that is the case, > > Mailman isn't able to deliver fast enough to Postfix to keep up with > > it's volume. > > > > Even with full VERP, Mailman should be able to deliver tens of messages > > per second to Postfix. If it is slower than that, there is a n issue > > with delivery. Once we have more info on whether the queue is backlogged > > and what the delivery rate is, we can say more. > > You might find some of the hits from the google search > > > > site:mail.python.org inurl:mailman backlogged out queue > > > > of interest. > > > -- > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
