On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 07:29 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> No, I mean I send messages and they don't show up for a half hour even >> in the postfix logs.... > > > Assuming Mailman 2.1.x, the usual cause of this is a backlogged 'out' > queue in Mailman. Look at Mailman's 'smtp' log, and look at how many > files are in Mailman's qfiles/out/ directory (/var/spool/mailman/out in > some packages). > > If there are more than one or two files in the out/ queue, and if the > smtp log has successive entries of the form
there are 38 files in there at preseent -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 4441 Feb 28 16:57 1456690111.419805+dd7dabe9420b90aad8e72ee0607a4eb015fb9976.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 21731 Feb 28 16:33 1456695234.857981+952d2cfb1cfa9559943dc335ca8eced7d26aaa6f.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 30549 Feb 28 16:33 1456695235.935237+55c1c60ede5771fa2960a0460011f82266dbcb8b.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 26009 Feb 28 16:33 1456695236.069412+c268ffc9dfded5c93d3b3048831f058e184dd576.pck www:/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/out # ls -al |wc 38 335 4028 > > Feb 28 08:55:43 2016 (30307) <mesage-id> smtp to list for nnn recips, > completed in t.ttt seconds this is the postfix mail log? like this? 2016-02-28T17:17:14.802128-05:00 www postfix/qmgr[21586]: 0F2FB1616D8: from=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, size=6960, nrcpt=41 (queue active) 2016-02-28T17:17:14.857414-05:00 www postfix/qmgr[21586]: 7C884163D99: from=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, size=4936, nrcpt=42 (queue active) 2016-02-28T17:17:14.876153-05:00 www postfix/qmgr[21586]: 7E61E1616C8: from=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, size=5354, nrcpt=40 (queue active) 2016-02-28T17:17:14.893215-05:00 www postfix/qmgr[21586]: 15E131617B9: from=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, size=3740, nrcpt=41 (queue active) and this 2016-02-28T17:17:43.841701-05:00 www postfix/local[667]: 47291163DA1: to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=0.55, delays=0.03/0/0/0.51, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) 18260985136, Hostname=BLUPR09MB0181.namprd09.prod.outlook.com] 12753 bytes in 0.183, 67.784 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery) 2016-02-28T15:51:56.553321-05:00 www postfix/local[25454]: E763B163D9C: to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=0.61, delays=0.1/0/0/0.51, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) 2016-02-28T15:52:24.710239-05:00 www postfix/local[25458]: 18326163D9A: to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=0.61, delays=0.09/0/0/0.51, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) 2016-02-28T16:06:18.504031-05:00 www postfix/local[25619]: A874B163DA1: to=<hang...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=1.4, delays=0.88/0.02/0/0.52, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hangout) 2016-02-28T16:33:54.960832-05:00 www postfix/local[26033]: 0A854163DA2: to=<hang...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=1, delays=0.17/0.05/0/0.79, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hangout) 2016-02-28T17:12:16.334190-05:00 www postfix/local[561]: BA2A3163DA2: to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=1.6, delays=0.19/0.04/0/1.4, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) 2016-02-28T17:12:16.342511-05:00 www postfix/local[513]: ADAD9163DA1: to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=1.6, delays=0.05/0.01/0/1.6, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) 2016-02-28T17:17:43.841701-05:00 www postfix/local[667]: 47291163DA1: to=<hangout-boun...@nylxs.com>, relay=local, delay=0.55, delays=0.03/0/0/0.51, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces hangout) > > with each messages time stamp being t.ttt seconds later than the > preceding message, the out/ queue is backlogged. If that is the case, > Mailman isn't able to deliver fast enough to Postfix to keep up with > it's volume. > > Even with full VERP, Mailman should be able to deliver tens of messages > per second to Postfix. If it is slower than that, there is a n issue > with delivery. Once we have more info on whether the queue is backlogged > and what the delivery rate is, we can say more. > You might find some of the hits from the google search > > site:mail.python.org inurl:mailman backlogged out queue > > of interest. > -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
