Thx for the ideas, I am going to check the hotmail thing first. Surely I
am no spammer, multirbl and mxtoolbox shows me clear. I see some clue
based on Willi's message, the problem came from Roundcube so it is high
chance that my issue become off-topic here. 

Regards - Zoli 

2015-06-16 19:58 időpontban Marius Gologan ezt írta: 

> When you click the message in Spam folder, Gmail displays a banner which 
> gives you a clue why the message was marked as spam.
> The reason can be one of many: 
> 
> Many people indicated similar message as spam.
> It's similar to messages that were detected by our spam filters.
> Messages from domain.tld are considered spam. 
> 
> Try to send different messages in your tests. Not Suject: test, body: test. 
> 
> In hotmail, view source, you have x-message-delivery: base64-key. 
> 
> Decode that base64 key and see the SCL score. Above 4 is bad. 
> 
> Also, hotmail provides a reason why the message was delivered to Spam folder: 
> you are not interested or the SmartScreen detected as spam. 
> 
> Check your IP and domain in multirbl.valli.org 
> 
> Marius. 
> 
> FROM: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org 
> [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] ON BEHALF OF z...@oper.hu
> SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:45 PM
> TO: Andrew Beverley
> CC: postfix-users@postfix.org
> SUBJECT: Re: sent mail goes into spam 
> 
> Which regards the IP, this IP already know. What I did I replaced the mail 
> system. The orginal was postfix 2.5.5, the new is 2.11.0. Thanks for the idea 
> of DKIM I will look the detail and I also continue search for the archives. 
> 
> Reagrds - Zoli 
> 
> 2015-06-16 19:26 időpontban Andrew Beverley ezt írta: 
> 
> On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 17:04 +0200, z...@oper.hu wrote:
> 
> When my useres send mail most of the mails goes into spam. 
> 
> When you start sending from a "new" IP address, it is not unusual for
> 
> the big email providers to "spam" your mail initially, until they get an
> 
> idea of what's coming from your server and know that they can trust it.
> 
> You should also sign your emails with DKIM. I have seen that make the
> 
> different between going to spam and not.
> 
> As Christian says, this has been discussed before, so worth searching
> 
> the archives.
> 
> Andy

 

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