Am 10.05.2013 08:26, schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
>> nobody expect that if he make mistakes in his DNS configs and is too
>> lazy to verify what he configured that others configure their servers
>> to help him
> 
> Again you miss the point. The reason for a 4xx here is so the mail gets
> queued and can simply be flushed after the DNS or other error is
> corrected. Thus the message isn't needlessly returned to the sender.
> Most of such errors are found and corrected pretty quickly. Using a 4xx
> in this case keeps things more transparent to users, whether mine,
> yours, or the guy at the remote SMTP site.

most of these errors are corrected after someone complaints and with
a 4xx it takes up to 5 days until this happens

a wrong configuration is a wrong configuration
period

>> with this attitude you would needto reject all with 4xx because
>> someone could have make a mistake - this is a bad attitude in
>> context of e-mail
> 
> No, Reindl, this is called courtesy to fellow network operators. The
> only bad attitude here is yours. You display it both here and on the
> Dovecot list regularly.  Being brash and arrogant is one thing.  Most
> people dislike that but tolerate it. But the constant cursing and
> berating anyone who disagrees with you crosses the line.

diagree is one thing but disagree on clear technical facts is another

> Frankly I'm surprised that Wietse and Victor have let you get away with
> this behavior for so long. I guess they're leaving it up to members to
> add you to local kill files...

frankly i am surprised that you not attack Wietse sometimes after
he rferes to some documentation flowed by "to unsubscribe....."

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