On 11/30/2012 4:48 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > in the real world submission is useless if IMAP is down > because the client will fail to store in "sent messages"
In the real world most road warriors use POP, not IMAP, and those with consistent connectivity that do make use of IMAP do it via web mail. So the "sent items" folder isn't an issue. Note the OP mentioned "laptop users" as his submitters, not desktop users. "Laptop" implies roaming, or he'd have used a different descriptive term. > PHYSICAL boxes are not needed in 900 out of 1000 environments Reindl, nobody here has ever heard of virtualization, so it's good that you give us all a lesson with every 3rd post. ;) That said, given the ongoing clock issues that all the guest/hypervisor combos have always experienced to some degree, and will forever experience no matter how good the mitigation hacks, it is my opinion, and Wietse's, and many others, that mail is not really a suitable application for most virtual environments. I'm sure you'll now write at least 5 paragraphs telling us why we're wrong, but it will be fruitless typing, as you won't change our minds. In the OP's case, deploying a second box is a helluva lot easier than building a virtual infrastructure from the ground up simply to solve this one issue. And of course he could do it with a single Postfix instance, or dual instance, on the one box, but a second box gives him some additional flexibility, not to mention IO headroom for queues and logs. -- Stan