I have ruled out the amavis setup. What I need is a way to specify sender_bcc_maps only if the mail is sent from an authenticated user - This may be achievable by having a separate cleanup process for submission, but I don't want to use submission - The set up on the mua side should be a "normal" pop or imap setup with any special ports eg 587.
From: mribb...@hotmail.com To: jer...@adaptr.nl; postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: RE: bcc send map issue - duplication when mail sent from other host Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 02:05:25 +0000 Hi Again, I think the -o cleanup_service_name option isn't doing anything for me because of my Amavis configuration. Still investigating. From: mribb...@hotmail.com To: jer...@adaptr.nl; postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: RE: bcc send map issue - duplication when mail sent from other host Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 01:25:00 +0000 This looks like what I want: http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/postfix-users@postfix.org/msg36244.html However it doesnt seem to do anything. I have: submission inet n - n - - smtpd -o cleanup_service_name=msa-cleanup msa-cleanup unix n - - - 0 cleanup -o sender_bcc_maps=mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_bcc_send_maps.cf If I change mysql_bcc_send_maps.cf to a file that doesn't exist, no errors are logged when sending. Also changing to -o clean_service_name=nonexistant_service doesn't generate any errors, which makes me wonder if this option is still supported on my build. From: mribb...@hotmail.com To: jer...@adaptr.nl; postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: RE: bcc send map issue - duplication when mail sent from other host Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:06:01 +0000 Hi Joroen, I scratched my query out a bit quickly on a Friday afternoon - Thanks for your corrections, I am indeed looking at sender_bcc_maps and recipient_bcc_maps I agree, POP is not a mail sending protocol. I'm trying to make a distinction here between mail that is sent by a POP client via the postfix mail server, and mail that is generated by a separate server with both the from and to addresses matching the sender and recipient bcc map options. Just to explain what I'm hoping to achieve: All mail sent using POP clients is copied to crm_sys...@example.com (sender_bcc_map entry mail=@example.com, destination=crm_sys...@example.com) All mail received is copied to crm_sys...@example.com (recipient_bcc_map entry mail=@example.com, destination=crm_sys...@example.com) I can see why postfix is doing what it's doing - When our webshop sends an order copy email from sa...@example.com to sa...@example.com, that mail matches both the sender and recipient_bcc_maps To me this seems like a legitimate attempt for using both for the same domain. I have spent several hours reviewing the documentation and experimenting to no avail. The documentation is indeed quite clear, but I can't work out how to achieve what I require here. If I just disable 'it' (either the sender_bcc_maps or the recipient_bcc_maps entry) then I won't have all sent and received mail copied to my crm_sys...@example.com address as required. Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:30:01 +0200 From: jer...@adaptr.nl To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: bcc send map issue - duplication when mail sent from other host On 2011-09-16 04:08, Michael Ribbons wrote: Hi, I am using bcc_send_maps No such option exists. You may be referring to sender_bcc_maps. so all mail sent by POP Ugh. Re-check your basics - POP is not a mail SENDING protocol. is BCC to a particular address. So all mail from @example.com is BCCd to crm_sys...@example.com This works fine. However when we send mail from our webshop, the mail gets BCC'd as well, eg mail from webs...@example.com, mail to: sa...@example.com I think this is because the first address matches the send map spec of @example.com However I don't want this behaviour - We are also using bcc_recipient_maps so everything coming in to @example.com already gets copied to crm_sys...@example.com Again, the option is called recipient_bcc_maps. And why use both for the same domain ? That sounds suspicously like a broken configuration attempt. Is there any way to tell postfix not to use bcc_send_maps for mail sent by other sendmails? Exclude it. Map formats and examples are documented clearly. http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#recipient_bcc_maps http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#sender_bcc_maps http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html#overview -- J.
