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> Datum: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:08:18 -0500
> Von: Glen Lee Edwards <g...@holiness.ch>
> An: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Betreff: Re: The future of SMTP ?

> On 3/13/2011 8:27 AM, Dennis Carr wrote:
> > On Sun, 13 Mar 2011, Frank Bonnet wrote:
> >
> >> But to fight spam and all other malicious
> >> problems it's getting more and more sophisticated
> >> and complex to configure every day.
> >> It is not a criticism it is a fact that jump
> >> to every sysadmin's face.
> >
> >> Does anyone has knowing of the future of SMTP ?
> >> Is there some project to replace it by some
> >> more secure protocol ?
> >
> > I, too, would have to say "no" to this one.
> >
> > SMTP is used largely because it has worked since the standard was 
> > implemented with RFC 822 back nearly 30 years ago and it still works, 
> > for all intents, and in fact does exactly what it says on the tin.  So 
> > it's not SMTP that's broken, it's pretty much a) the end users who 
> > allow their machines to be zombied as a result of not exercising 
> > proper security practices, and b) the scumbags who actually generate 
> > the crap.
> >
> > The best we can really do is implement the spam blocks for receiving, 
> > unfortunately, and continue the usual practices: SPF implementations, 
> > the varying blacklists, etc.
> >
> > -Dennis
> >
> I would hold that the problem with SMTP is the premise that it's built 
> on - it holds that our email boxes are open to the public and that 
> anyone at any time has the right to drop email in them.  I disagree.
>
This thread is supposed to be dead. And I idiot am going to reply to it (for 
the last time).


> My 
> email address(es) are not open to the public.  I have them so that 
> specific people can contact me.  I have no desire to hear from the whole 
> world.  If email is going to survive, SMTP is going to have to change 
> its foundational philosophy and redefine the standard so that mail from 
> senders not on a predefined list requires that a human being enter in a 
> code or password in order to obtain permission to access the box.  I 
> tried to set up my local mail servers that way but was blacklisted for 
> sending out rejection notices that stated:
> 
>     "You are not authorized to access this account.  To obtain
>     permission you must call xxx-xxx-xxxx, leave your name and email
>     address and why you want to contact me."
> 
So you are one those ppl sending useless notices/bounces when you could 
configure your SMTPD to emit that notice during the SMTP communication (aka: 
before queue)?


> I've created 2 methods to deal with this problem;
> 
>    1. For my main email account, I now have my personal filters set up
>       so that I receive mail from a list of approved senders, Mail from
>       anyone else is automatically deleted.
>    2. For email from lists such as this one I have a private email
>       address that allows anyone to access.  As soon as I start
>       receiving spam from it I unsubscribe from all lists, delete the
>       address, create a new one, then resubscribe to the lists.
> 
> It's a pain, but it works better than deleting 1000 spam letters a week, 
> which is what I was doing before.
> 
> Glen
>
Steve
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