On Aug 13, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Larry Stone wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, jason hirsh wrote:
when I stop debugging I won't this is the third instance of I
have had of "lost mail" and teh first that I had the address so I
can chase it down
You didn't lose any mail. The upstream server did. You can't fix
other server's problems and until you accept the mail (you didn't),
it's not yours to lose.
well when is it acceptance for a contract offer , it is kind of har to
say.. hey the guy that wants to spend the money has a crappy server
teh client would rather sort through spam then not receive email
The sender said to my client that he sent the message .. he was
unaware it was rejected
I would like to reject it back to the sender so he knows..
You did reject it. Notification is the job of the last MTA to accept
the message. A rejecting MTA cannot provide any notification back to
the sender without it being at serious risk of being a backscatter
source.
Ok that makes sense, doesn't sell well, but it makes perfect semse
That the upstream MTA failed to properly notify the sender is not,
let me make that clear, IS NOT your problem to solve. If the sender
is complaining to you, you need to tell him or her that your system
rejected the message (which is your right) and that failure to
notify him or her of the rejection is a failure by a server not
under your control. He needs to complain to his provider as to why
the upstream server (most likely the one he is sending via or if
not, very near it) is not properly notifying him.
if I can't notify senders of rejects it sure beats searching logs
for rejects
Are you new to this? Because given the level of spam and other crud
on the Internet, with any kind of anti-spam/anti-virus controls in
place, you should be (or soon will be) rejecting hundreds if not
thousands of messages per day.
No I am not mew.. but this is a new problem .. legitimate email being
bounced I have a small customer bases.. 5 domains less then 20
active accounts ..but I wouldn't place the host name rejection
messages at only a couple of hundred a day the vast majority are
for other reasons and from other filters those I don't care about
Jason
-- Larry Stone
lston...@stonejongleux.com
