Hi Wietse, No, it is not too much to ask. I and MANY other people have been supporting open source for a VERY VERY long time. We, in our own little way, have spread the open-source gospel to just as many people. We contribute where we can, maybe not in an "important" way like designing a mailserver, or a webserver. We do not hack kernels, we do not slap a driver together in 10 minutes for an unsupported piece of hardware. We are not on the OpenSSH or OpenSSL coding team. No, we are just ordinary people who fight for a just cause. We inform people that there are other alternatives, better alternatives. We tell people and businesses about OpenBSD, postfix, apache, samba, debian etc. We do this when we do our normal day to day jobs that are not related to computers. We do this when we get home on mailing lsts like this. We do this after we washed the grease and oil from our hands and faces. We are the ones in the dungeons feeding the fires and axeing the logs.
And then you come home one night after upgrading a system and experience a problem. You post it to one of the relevant mailiing lists expecting a decent well formed and thought-out answer and you get some wise-crack who gives you the "it's a bug" answer. I am an aircraft engineer. Everyday of my life I work from 6 in the morning till 3 in the afternoon. I am expected to know the ins and outs of a Boeing 747-400 when in comes in with an electrical problem, I am expected to know a Boeing 737-800 when the engines don't want to start, it is expected of me to rig the flight controls on an Airbus A319 and many others. When an Airbus A340-600 pilot asks me why his Navigation control panel doesn't operate, I don't tell him that it is a bug, NO ... If I don't know the answer I will consult the aircraft manuals and FIND the possible causes of this, and then I will tell this Pilot the conclusions I have come to and the different avenues I will explore in correcting this fault. I DON'T TELL HIM IT IS A FREAKIN BUG .... The problem with mailing lists like these, including mailing lists like OpenBSD et.al is that those of us that are not "known" in the open-source circles and those of us that do not contribute to some obscure "matrix hashing algorithm" and those of us who do not hog mailing lists like these are undermined and shrugged off as idiots. We ask the "wrong" monotonous over-explained questions. We get answers like "Read the f**** manual" or "it's been answered to death" or "why don't you go read the (underexplained, not so obvious) examples in the manual" or "IT's a BUG". All I wanted to know from this mailing list is if the "mailbox_command" will influence the way fetchmail operates, THAT IS ALL. I know what fetchmail does, I know what procmail does and I have some idea of the purpose of an MTA like postfix. The reason I posted here is because POSTFIX, not exim, not sendmail but POSTFIX is involved. POSTFIX calls fetchamail in the postfix main.cf via the mailbox_command. SO DO NOT TELL ME THAT I AM ON THE WRONG FREAKIN MAILING LIST. Thank You Danny > You need to show logfile evidence that Postfix is actually part of > your problem. I hope that is not too much to be asked. > > Wietse
