On 04/22/10 02:57, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
> On 04/22/10 02:42, Matt Hayes wrote:
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>> On 04/21/2010 08:33 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
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>>     
>>> On 04/22/10 02:10, Matt Hayes wrote:
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>>>       
>>>> On 04/21/2010 07:19 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
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>>>>> On 04/21/10 23:47, mouss wrote:
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>>>>>> Oliver Schinagl a écrit :
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>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been trying to figure out why a new server I setup using postfix
>>>>>>> doesn't allow me to relay messages after I authenticate (using
>>>>>>> cyrus-sasl). It appears then I can authenticate just fine, but when I
>>>>>>> try to send a message, I get a RBL error. I obviously want my ADSL IP
>>>>>>> not to be whitelisted from the sending end (as it's dhcp and just a
>>>>>>> regular adsl ip) but I would have expected that after authentication the
>>>>>>> RBL would be bypassed?
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Show logs that prove your claims:
>>>>>> 1- user was authenticated
>>>>>> 2- relay was denied
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for (1), you should find a line like this:
>>>>>> Apr 21 00:11:06 imlil postfix/smtpd[41827]: 454E8E54888:
>>>>>> client=ouzoud.netoyen.net[82.239.111.75], sasl_method=PLAIN,
>>>>>> sasl_username=mo...@ml.netoyen.net
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Sorry for forgetting,
>>>>>
>>>>> I can post 2; I'm having troubles finding 1, because I think that's
>>>>> whats going wrong ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Apr 19 14:30:36 example postfix/smtpd[26549]: connect from
>>>>> xx-xxx-xx-xx.ip.someisp.nl[xx.xxx.xx.xx]
>>>>> Apr 19 14:30:36 example postfix/smtpd[26549]: NOQUEUE: reject: CONNECT
>>>>> from xx-xxx-xx-xx.ip.someisp.nl[xx.xxx.xx.xx]: 554 5.7.1 Service
>>>>> unavailable; Client host [xx.xxx.xx.xx] blocked using zen.spamhaus.org;
>>>>> http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=xx.xxx.xx.xx; proto=SMTP
>>>>> Apr 19 14:30:36 example postfix/smtpd[26549]: too many errors after
>>>>> CONNECT from xx-xxx-xx-xx.ip.someisp.nl[xx.xxx.xx.xx]
>>>>> Apr 19 14:30:36 example postfix/smtpd[26549]: disconnect from
>>>>> xx-xxx-xx-xx.ip.someisp.nl[xx.xxx.xx.xx]
>>>>>
>>>>> What does work however, is if i telnet from my own host (which isn't in
>>>>> the pbl so it makes testing for me really hard (unless I could fake my
>>>>> domain temporarly to be on the pbl?) and AUTH LOGIN and send a message
>>>>> it does work, so sasl_auth must be working right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Apr 21 19:17:42 example postfix/smtpd[27551]: 3A47410E63:
>>>>> client=yyy-yy-ftth.myisp.nl[yyy.yyy.yy.yyy], sasl_method=LOGIN,
>>>>> sasl_username=theuser
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Either thunderbird isn't trying to auth at all (even though I told it
>>>>> to) or it gets RBLed before it could even try to auth, which is what I'm
>>>>> thinking.
>>>>>
>>>>> My test box, (diff server basically) which is on the pbl normally, is
>>>>> down for maintanance atm (broken nic :S) so all I got is users
>>>>> complaining unable to send mail on the new server, and I can't figure
>>>>> out what I have done wrong.
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>>>>>>> I thought I pretty much set it up the same way as my older server, which
>>>>>>> accepts my mail just fine! Guess I was wrong, and I can't find the
>>>>>>> differences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I've setup my server, I tried to document it as well as possible over
>>>>>>> at the gentoo-wiki;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Complete_Virtual_Mail_Server
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The entire postfix server seems to be running excellently as far as I
>>>>>>> can tell, except for not being able to send from remote 'internet' IP's
>>>>>>> that are on the PBL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Find below my postconf -n (having replaced the real hostname with
>>>>>>> foo.example)
>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>> postconf -n
>>>>>>> biff = no
>>>>>>> broken_sasl_auth_clients = no
>>>>>>> command_directory = /usr/sbin
>>>>>>> config_directory = /etc/postfix
>>>>>>> daemon_directory = /usr/lib64/postfix
>>>>>>> data_directory = /var/lib/postfix
>>>>>>> debug_peer_level = 1
>>>>>>> disable_vrfy_command = yes
>>>>>>> home_mailbox = .maildir/
>>>>>>> html_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.6.5/html
>>>>>>> mail_owner = postfix
>>>>>>> mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq
>>>>>>> manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
>>>>>>> message_size_limit = 20480000
>>>>>>> mydomain = example.com
>>>>>>> myhostname = foo.example.com
>>>>>>> mynetworks_style = host
>>>>>>> newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases
>>>>>>> queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
>>>>>>> readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.6.5/readme
>>>>>>> recipient_delimiter = +
>>>>>>> relay_domains = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql/pgsql-relay-domains-maps.cf
>>>>>>> sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail
>>>>>>> setgid_group = postdrop
>>>>>>> smtpd_banner = $myhostname NO UCE ESMTP
>>>>>>> smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,
>>>>>>> permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mx_backup, reject_rbl_client
>>>>>>> zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, reject_rbl_client
>>>>>>> bl.spamcop.net
>>>>>>> smtpd_delay_reject = no
>>>>>>> smtpd_helo_required = yes
>>>>>>> smtpd_helo_restrictions = reject_invalid_hostname
>>>>>>> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,
>>>>>>> permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mx_backup, check_policy_service
>>>>>>> inet:127.0.0.1:2525, reject_unauth_destination
>>>>>>> smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
>>>>>>> smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = no
>>>>>>> smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
>>>>>>> smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
>>>>>>> smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.org.pem
>>>>>>> smtpd_tls_auth_only = no
>>>>>>> smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtp.example.com_server.pem
>>>>>>> smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtp.example.com_privatekey.pem
>>>>>>> smtpd_tls_loglevel = 0
>>>>>>> smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
>>>>>>> smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
>>>>>>> smtpd_use_tls = yes
>>>>>>> soft_bounce = no
>>>>>>> tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
>>>>>>> unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
>>>>>>> virtual_alias_maps = 
>>>>>>> pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql/pgsql-virtual-alias-maps.cf
>>>>>>> virtual_gid_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql/pgsql-virtual-gid-maps.cf
>>>>>>> virtual_mailbox_base = /var/vmail
>>>>>>> virtual_mailbox_domains =
>>>>>>> pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql/pgsql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf
>>>>>>> virtual_mailbox_limit_maps =
>>>>>>> pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql/pgsql-virtual-mailbox-limit-maps.cf
>>>>>>> virtual_mailbox_limit_override = yes
>>>>>>> virtual_mailbox_maps =
>>>>>>> pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql/pgsql-virtual-mailbox-maps.cf
>>>>>>> virtual_maildir_extended = yes
>>>>>>> virtual_maildir_limit_message = "Sorry, the recipients mailbox is
>>>>>>> currently full. Please try again later."
>>>>>>> virtual_overquota_bounce = no
>>>>>>> virtual_trash_count = no
>>>>>>> virtual_trash_name = ".Trash"
>>>>>>> virtual_uid_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql/pgsql-virtual-uid-maps.cf
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>>>> Is there some reason you aren't using the submission port (587) ?
>>>>
>>>> -matt
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>>> Because it's the first time I've heard of it! :) (I did notice google
>>> was running services on that port, so I suppose that is what that is?)
>>>
>>> I followed years ago the inital howto, and re-wrote the howto from the
>>> gentoo wiki, neither mention submission. Also in the default config it
>>> is disabled.
>>>
>>> I'm all for enabling it too (and updating the howto for it); It brings
>>> up a few questions though.
>>> What is it speficially for? It seems it's yet another port to listen for
>>> incoming mail, but on 587 instead of 25 forcing the use of TLS and Sasl
>>> auth?
>>> Why is it commented default?
>>> It won't fix why i'm hitting the RBL list when trying to send externally
>>> right? Just a nother way for users to submit their messages?
>>>
>>> I do like having it though I admit for when smtps wouldn't be available.
>>>     
>>>       
>> Yes, it is another smtpd, however, its specifically for user submission
>> of email.
>>
>> This allows you the flexibility to give your authed users ways to bypass
>> things like.. RBL checks and it forces users to authenticate to send
>> email, which in-turn, can help verify they are who they say they are etc.
>>
>> -Matt
>>   
>>     
> Ok, thanks I'll enable that one as well, atleast I can get my users to
> mail properly using 587; I'll still have to figure out why auth won't
> work on the regular port 25 though :S, simply because it bugs me :S
>   
Heh, I suppose it wasn't as straightforward as that; I'll look more into
it after some sleep, I enabled it with the following:
submission inet n       -       n       -       -       smtpd
#  -o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt
  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
#  -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING
(even tried uncommenting both, which shouldn't matter inmo?)

But got denied errors, telnet didn't tell me much, thunderbird told me
slightly more:
An error occurred sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect
greeting:  5.7.1 <yyy-yy-ftth.myisp.nl[yyy.yyy.yy.yyy]>: Client host
rejected: Access denied.
It won't even ask me for my sasl password, nothing. A mistery for the
next day.

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