Paweł Leśniak a écrit : > W dniu 2009-04-14 23:11, mouss pisze: >> Ralf Hildebrandt a écrit : >> >>> * MacShane, Tracy <tracy.macsh...@airservicesaustralia.com>: >>> >>> >>>> Then you won't receive some genuine messages, both bounce and >>>> non-bounce. >>>> >>>> Try the ips.backscatterer.org RBL; it works well for us. >>>> >>>> http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/postfix-users@postfix.org/msg57402.html >>>> >>> They are retarded. mail.charite.de is listed in it. >>> >>> >> >> and I guess postfix members would be bothered to block: >> camomile.cloud9.net[168.100.1.3] >> english-breakfast.cloud9.net[168.100.1.7] >> >> $ host 3.1.100.168.ips.backscatterer.org >> 3.1.100.168.ips.backscatterer.org has address 127.0.0.2 >> $ host 7.1.100.168.ips.backscatterer.org >> 7.1.100.168.ips.backscatterer.org has address 127.0.0.2 >> >> so if one uses this list, then >> - use a whitelist (dnswl and possibly local WL) >> - use it in smtpd_data_restrictions to avoid blocking SAV sources. while >> you may hate SAV, it's different than backscatter. >> > I think that you're missing something. > I'm getting emails from this list as: > <owner-*******...@********.org> -> <warl...@lesniakowie.com>
it doesn't matter. if you block bounces from the server, you'll block all bounces, be them legitimate or backscatter. the problem with backscatterer.org is that we have no idea why IPs are listed. mixing SAV and backscatter sources is a bad idea. I am not a fan of SAV, but this is a different problem than backscatter. anyway, let's not discuss this here as it is off topic. feel free to contact me offlist if you want. > Where's the place where emails would be rejected? Is this list doing SAV? > I'd even ask - is ANY list doing SAV? It's hard for me to imagine > sending thousands of emails to users who had already confirmed email > address during "registration". unfortunately, there are a few issues: - membership validation is done by the list manager software, at delivery time, long after the "first" relay has accepted the message. - most list managers use the From: header to validate membership sure, the list of valid members may be exported to be used by the relay, but it's not how things are done, and MLMs don't make it easy (the only free one I know of that makes this easy is "sympa").
