On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM, mouss <mo...@ml.netoyen.net> wrote:
> Gary Frederick a écrit :
>> Thanks all. I now understand.
>>
>> ...
>>>> My postfix sends a message back to the sender that it was to a
>>>> non-existent address. I was thinking about not sending them anything
>>>> back. No need to tell them they guessed wrong.
>>>>
>>> in a good confifguration postfix doesn't _send_. it _rejects_ the
>>> transaction. this is like a 404 in http. the bounce is created by the
>>> client MTA, not by your postfix.
>>
>> An example where my server rejected a bad address:
>>
>> "The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.1
>> <a...@dev.jsoft.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
>> virtual alias table (state 14)."
>>
>
> please show full log lines (you can hide private infos, but do so
> consistently). do not interpret logs and error messages (I doubt any MTA
> says "that the other server returned").
>
>> I do not send bounces. I reject them like the above.
>>
>
> it actually looks like you do send bounces. if your postfix relays mail
> to an internal server, you must configure postfix to reject unknown
> recipients instead of accepting them and then bouncing.
>
> As I already said, show logs and 'postconf -n' for help.
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I changed actual addresses. Here is the info
I sent an email as g...@example.com to a...@lists.example.com
g...@example.com is a google apps email that has been running for a year.
a...@lists.example.com is the server I am trying to configure to do
mailinglist email.
Any and all input is appreciated.
postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
alias_maps =
hash:${config_directory}/aliases,hash:/etc/mailman/aliases,hash:${config_directory}/turbopanel/aliases
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
html_directory = no
inet_interfaces = all
mail_owner = postfix
mailbox_size_limit = 104857600
mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
message_size_limit = 104857600
mydestination = $myhostname,localhost.$mydomain,localhost
myhostname = some.server.com
myorigin = lists.example.com
newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix
owner_request_special = no
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.3.3/README_FILES
recipient_delimiter = +
relayhost = k2smtpout.secureserver.net
sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.3.3/samples
sender_canonical_maps =
hash:${config_directory}/sender_canonical,hash:${config_directory}/turbopanel/sender_canonical
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
setgid_group = postdrop
smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
permit_sasl_authenticated,permit_mynetworks,reject_unauth_destination
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_tls_CAfile = ${config_directory}/ssl/post.pem
smtpd_tls_auth_only = no
smtpd_tls_cert_file = ${config_directory}/ssl/post.pem
smtpd_tls_key_file = ${config_directory}/ssl/post.pem
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 3
smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
smtpd_use_tls = yes
tls_random_exchange_name = /var/run/prng_exch
tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
virtual_alias_domains = lists.example.com
virtual_alias_maps =
hash:${config_directory}/virtual_alias,hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman,hash:${config_directory}/turbopanel/virtual_alias
virtual_mailbox_domains =
hash:${config_directory}/virtual_domains,hash:${config_directory}/turbopanel/virtual_domains
virtual_transport = lmtp:unix:/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp
and the message back
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Delivered-To: g...@example.com
Received: by 10.142.187.9 with SMTP id k9cs1515614wff;
Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:53:44 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.142.214.11 with SMTP id m11mr1114264wfg.125.1232124824570;
Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:53:44 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <>
Received: by 10.142.214.11 with SMTP id m11mr1349234wfg.125;
Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:53:44 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <000e0cd2e61c7ccba204609c6...@googlemail.com>
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-dae...@googlemail.com>
To: g...@example.com
Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:53:44 -0800 (PST)
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
a...@list.example.com
Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for
further information about the cause of this error. The error that the
other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.1 <a...@list.example.com>:
Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table (state
14).
----- Original message -----
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.142.214.11 with SMTP id m11mr1114257wfg.125.1232124824013;
Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:53:44 -0800 (PST)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:53:43 -0600
Message-ID: <2784d7ed0901160853i7359a18en79e792319e833...@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: to a...@list
From: Gary <g...@example.com>
To: a...@list.example.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
test
----- End of message -----
and from the logs
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Jan 16 09:53:44 ip-97-74-64-229 postfix/smtpd[7714]: connect from
wf-out-1314.google.com[209.85.200.170]
Jan 16 09:53:44 ip-97-74-64-229 postfix/smtpd[7714]: NOQUEUE: reject:
RCPT from wf-out-1314.google.com[209.85.200.170]: 550 5.1.1 <arf
@list.example.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
virtual alias table; from=<g...@example.com> to=<a...@list.example.com>
proto=ES
MTP helo=<wf-out-1314.google.com>
Jan 16 09:53:44 ip-97-74-64-229 postfix/smtpd[7714]: disconnect from
wf-out-1314.google.com[209.85.200.170]
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>
>> sooo
>> It's a bad idea to mess with the rejection message. Thanks again.
>>
>> Gary
>
>
