When their servers are experiencing an "outage" , I see:

Oct 28 09:04:46 mta1 postfix/smtp[18570]: connect to
wec-imail3.bank.com[xxx.xxx.91.93]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:04:46 mta1 postfix/smtp[18570]: connect to
wec-imail2.bank.com[xxx.xxx.91.92]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:04:46 mta1 postfix/smtp[18570]: connect to
wec-imail4.bank.com[xxx.xxx.91.94]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:04:46 mta1 postfix/smtp[18570]: connect to
sls-imail2.bank.com[xxx.xxx.184.92]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:08:14 mta1 postfix/smtp[4818]: connect to
wec-imail1.bank.com[xxx.xxx.91.91]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:08:14 mta1 postfix/smtp[4818]: connect to
sls-imail2.bank.com[xxx.xxx.184.92]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:08:14 mta1 postfix/smtp[4818]: connect to
sls-imail4.bank.com[xxx.xxx.184.94]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:08:14 mta1 postfix/smtp[4818]: connect to
sls-imail3.bank.com[xxx.xxx.184.93]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:12:42 mta1 postfix/smtp[12046]: connect to
wec-imail4.bank.com[xxx.xxx.91.94]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:24:35 mta1 postfix/smtp[24419]: connect to
sls-imail3.bank.com[xxx.xxx.184.93]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:24:35 mta1 postfix/smtp[24419]: connect to
wec-imail4.bank.com[xxx.xxx.91.94]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:24:41 mta1 postfix/smtp[24419]: connect to
wec-imail1.bank.com[xxx.xxx.91.91]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:24:41 mta1 postfix/smtp[24419]: connect to
wec-imail3.bank.com[xxx.xxx.91.93]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:24:41 mta1 postfix/smtp[24419]: connect to
sls-imail2.bank.com[xxx.xxx.184.92]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:28:31 mta1 postfix/smtp[22520]: connect to
wec-imail2.bank.com[xxx.xxx.91.92]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:28:31 mta1 postfix/smtp[22520]: connect to
sls-imail3.bank.com[xxx.xxx.184.93]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct 28 09:29:22 mta1 postfix/smtp[6856]: connect to
sls-imail5.bank.com[xxx.xxx.184.95]: Connection refused (port 25)

At these times, I'm also unable to telnet:25 into their mail servers
(I've tested on several ISPs and outside my firewall to make sure it
wasn't something with my Internet connection).  I managed to get a hold
of their tech people, they admitted that it was due to SPAM, and they
sent out a company-wide email warning their clients about it.  As I
said, I'm pretty confident that the problem is on their end.

-Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Carmen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:04 PM
To: Vintinner, M. Scott
Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
Subject: Re: Avoiding "cool-off" retry delay for some domains

What does your log say when you try to deliver a message and it fails?

Terry



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