On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 01:36:32PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> Hi Alf,
> 
> You sent this to me personally, did you want to keep this offlist ? I
> did not see anything particularly private in your message, but I'm
> replying offlist in any case.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
> 
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:09:47PM +0200, Alf Schlichting wrote:
> | On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:30:32AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> | > I hate you.
> | > 
> | > 
> | > This is going to cost me many sleepless nights ;(
> | > 
> | > Anyway .. thanks for the port, my meager laptop (with ATI Radeon LW
> | > RV200 Mobility 7500 M7) seems to have no problems running this at a
> | > semi reasonable speed. Smoother than games/quake2, with lots of
> | > options turned down.
> | > 
> | > Sadly, unlike the statement on the website ("I think the mouse doesn't
> | > suck anymore also, though still, your mileage may vary."), mousing
> | > around was horrible (jumping all over the place, uncontrollable). As
> | > this is the only way for me to play, I can't really play right now.
> | > 
> | > I think this also allows for playing with the original pk3 files, so
> | > I'll have to dig those up from somewhere. 
> | Should not work i think. Last time i checked they had some stuff 
> | hardcoded into their binary ("baseoa" instead of ID's "baseq3" and some
> | more). A separate ioquake3 (the underlying engine) port would be great;)
> 
> That seems like a wasted effort. Two ports doing exactly the same
> thing but with different datafiles ? Sounds to me like installing
> mpg123 to play "openbsd43.mp3" and mpg321 to play "openbsd42.mp3".
Well a good reason to have ioquake3 seperated from openarena is
that openarena's project leader stated several times on their forums
that he considers lowering the graphics (especially "seta vertex_light 1")
a "cheat" and threatens his poor users to disable it in the engine.
1) This is quite ridicolous on it self and 2) makes the game unplayable
on slower machines. It would be more reasonable to have a generic 
ioquake3 and patch it to openarenas standards only if a user exclusivly
wants to install Openarena (IIRC they provide a patch to ioquake3 with
their distribution).


Alf
> 
> Maybe there are specific changes to the source that are
> openarena-only, but from what I can tell so far this is not the case.
> Once I have finished copying my baseq3/ to one drm-capable laptop I
> have, I will check to make sure Q3A-datafiles work with openarena (by
> copying them into baseoa/)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
> 
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