Adding some thoughts to my own post - I have experimented with dockerize.io and so far the $2 plan (which so far I haven't been charged for) has been quite adequate for hosting something simple (and I suspect the $5 plan would do the trick as well).
It does get a bit more pricey when you add a database and unlimited traffic (60GB MySQL Database: 4GB, 1000m + no traffic + 60GB persistance + 100 mb logs = $26/m) - but even then thats pretty good. It was relatively easy to do (doesn't have native Github integration yet, but has a cli for easy deployment) , and given what Esteban mentioned of his experience - this seems worth pursuing for ease of deployment/maintenance. I did find Pablo's instructions were a bit limited - in particular covering a private repo (and how Pharo and the BA docker image give no output on credential failure - I've raised an issue on BA github, but may be a pharo thing - not yet sure - but it is quite easy to overcome). It also doesn't cover safe credential storage and best practices etc. (so hopefully a future article from someone more experienced in this?) I'm curious if others have experienced anything similar they can share? I am a bit nervous the dockerize.io has little history (been around since 2019 allegedly) - but for my experimentation its fine. Others may need more, and I'm wondering where to help document this as deployment is a big stumbling block - that we actually can handle quite well with recent tooling. In this vein - I wonder where SmalltalkCI sits? Do you need it for a plain Pharo app - you just need to grep the output of Metacello and your test runner - but perhaps it does this better (I can see the need for building multiple platforms etc). Tim On Fri, 2 Apr 2021, at 10:32 AM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > Thanks Sanjay - you have reminded me that I have some similar notes somewhere > (now located) that did the command line foo to get things running - looking > at mine there was quite a big of dance to provide a way to gracefully stop > and start the image so that you can easily and automatically redeploy your > changes (read: use Github actions or Gitlab CI). > > So I’m curious on whether Docker is now sufficiently stable stable/easy/cheap > to make it a viable alternative - and whether that is also cost efficient. > > Pablo wrote a recent blog post on running Pharo in Docker using the BA images > - https://thepharo.dev/2021/02/24/running-pharo-9-in-docker/ - but while easy > on the surface, if anything goes wrong - there seems to be very little debug > output to know what has happened (I’ll post separately on this - as I’m > looking at comparing options here). > > With Docker options, I notice that dockerize.io (not used, just a quick > search) - has a micro plan for $2/m - but is 500mb ram enough (there is a $5 > one for 1gm ram). > > Or - I stick with DigitalOcean and roll my own like before - and perhaps that > has got a bit simpler. > > I’m still curious what the wider community is doing. > > > Tim > >> On 2 Apr 2021, at 05:43, Sanjay Minni <s...@planage.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Tim >> >> Here are my notes on installing Pharo in a DigitalOcean Ubuntu droplet. >> I usually go thru a Windows Command prompt box having installed xfec4 in the >> ubuntu droplet, but the command line connect and graphical remote may be >> easier for a Linux users. my ssh public key is also in the DO droplet >> Now the first step for me is a installing Pharo launcher thru command line >> and then everything is thru graphical interface >> >> Installing and checking Pharo-Launcher, Installing Pharo 8 64 bit from >> pharo.org (instructions as on Pharo.org <http://pharo.org/>) >> 1. In Windows 10 command prompt connect thru > ssh root@<Droplet-ip> >> 2. cd >> 3. curl -o pharo-launcher.zip -L >> https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/linux64 >> 4. unzip pharo-launcher.zip >> or thru the GUI-> extract here >> (pharo-launcher files will be extracted in ./pharo-launcher) >> Now while connected to the linux graphical interface thru windows remote >> terminal and in the GUI >> 5. Create a icon on desktop thru right-click “Create Launcher” for >> pharo-launcher >> 6. Create pharo images thru pharo-launcher >> >> hope this is of use >> >> Sanjay Minni >> >> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 16:31, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote: >>> Hi everyone - its been a few year since I last hosted a little Pharo web >>> app - and the last time I did, Sven pointed me to DigitalOcean and creating >>> a tiny instance and configuring an Ubuntu server and then copying a pharo >>> image on to that. It recall it wasn’t too bad, albeit a bit fiddly… >>> >>> Now several years later - I can’t recall the exact steps, and vaguely >>> recall there was something about 32bit vs 64bit setup etc - but am >>> wondering if things have advanced a bit and whether its much simpler these >>> days? I’ve seen references to Docker images for Pharo, and am wondering if >>> now that is a prime time way to easily get a small demo application up and >>> running with minimal fuss. >>> >>> Does anyone have advice - or something to point me to? >>> >>> Ideally I want to hook something up in Gitlab CI do deploy to this thing >>> automatically (this is where I got to a few years ago - but in picking >>> things back up I am hoping this has all got much simpler). >>> >>> Tim
