Thanks Sanjay - you have reminded me that I have some similar notes somewhere 
(now located) that did the command line foo to get things running - looking at 
mine there was quite a big of dance to provide a way to gracefully stop and 
start the image so that you can easily and automatically redeploy your changes 
(read: use Github  actions or Gitlab CI).

So I’m curious on whether Docker is now sufficiently stable stable/easy/cheap 
to make it a viable alternative - and whether that is also cost efficient.

Pablo wrote a recent blog post on running Pharo in Docker using the BA images - 
https://thepharo.dev/2021/02/24/running-pharo-9-in-docker/ 
<https://thepharo.dev/2021/02/24/running-pharo-9-in-docker/> - but while easy 
on the surface, if anything goes wrong - there seems to be very little debug 
output to know what has happened (I’ll post separately on this - as I’m looking 
at comparing options here).

With Docker options, I notice that dockerize.io <http://dockerize.io/> (not 
used, just a quick search) - has a micro plan for $2/m - but is 500mb ram 
enough (there is a $5 one for 1gm ram).

Or - I stick with DigitalOcean and roll my own like before - and perhaps that 
has got a bit simpler.

I’m still curious what the wider community is doing.


Tim

> On 2 Apr 2021, at 05:43, Sanjay Minni <s...@planage.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim
> 
> Here are my notes on installing Pharo in a DigitalOcean Ubuntu droplet.
> I usually go thru a Windows Command prompt box having installed xfec4 in the 
> ubuntu droplet, but the command line connect and graphical remote may be 
> easier for a Linux users. my ssh public key is also in the DO droplet 
> Now the first step for me is a installing Pharo launcher thru command line 
> and then everything is thru graphical interface
> 
> Installing and checking Pharo-Launcher, Installing Pharo 8 64 bit from 
> pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> (instructions as on Pharo.org)
> 1. In Windows 10 command prompt connect thru > ssh root@<Droplet-ip>
> 2. cd
> 3. curl -o pharo-launcher.zip -L 
> https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/linux64 
> <https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/linux64>
> 4. unzip pharo-launcher.zip 
>     or thru the GUI-> extract here
>     (pharo-launcher files will be extracted in ./pharo-launcher)
> Now while connected to the linux graphical interface thru windows remote 
> terminal and in the GUI 
> 5. Create a icon on desktop thru right-click “Create Launcher” for 
> pharo-launcher
> 6. Create pharo images thru pharo-launcher 
> 
> hope this is of use
> 
> Sanjay Minni
> 
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 16:31, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:
> Hi everyone - its been a few year since I last hosted a little Pharo web app 
> - and the last time I did, Sven pointed me to DigitalOcean and creating a 
> tiny instance and configuring an Ubuntu server and then copying a pharo image 
> on to that. It recall it wasn’t too bad, albeit a bit fiddly…
> 
> Now several years later - I can’t recall the exact steps, and vaguely recall 
> there was something about 32bit vs 64bit setup etc - but am wondering if 
> things have advanced a bit and whether its much simpler these days? I’ve seen 
> references to Docker images for Pharo, and am wondering if now that is a 
> prime time way to easily get a small demo application up and running with 
> minimal fuss.
> 
> Does anyone have advice - or something to point me to?
> 
> Ideally I want to hook something up in Gitlab CI do deploy to this thing 
> automatically (this is where I got to a few years ago - but in picking things 
> back up I am hoping this has all got much simpler).
> 
> Tim

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