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> On Sep 17, 2019, at 16:29, Ramon Leon <ramon.l...@allresnet.com> wrote: > >> On 2019-09-17 2:34 p.m., Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: >> as I say the important issue is to provide safe >> spaces via explicit or implicit rules > > I understand, I just disagree. These are of course my personal opinions, > others may disagree. "Safe spaces" are bad things, not good things; the > world is not a safe space, it is not the responsibility of others to provide > one a feeling of safety in a an online community where people merely exchange > words. Words are not dangerous, you are already safe. If you don't like what > someone is saying, ignore them or mute them. Safe space a euphemism for > censorship and exclusion, people who want safe spaces want to exclude other > people who might express ideas or opinions that they disagree with. Safe > spaces are anti-free speech zones. > > They are an attempt to prepare the world for the child rather than the child > for the world; they are inherently narcissistic. Intellectual discourse is > supposed to be challenging to your beliefs, you're supposed to confront ideas > you might not like or agree with and people you might have a hard time > getting along with. If you submit code to a technical forum you should expect > criticism and debate. Technical discussions should resolve around the ideas > being presented, not around the identities of those involved, and ideas > should always be open to critique and debate. I don't care what one's sex or > gender are or what color one's skin is or political beliefs are; those things > have no place in a technical forum. I watch these groups to see discussions > about technology like Pharo, Squeak, or Seaside. > > It's a rare thing to see anyone here being truly rude, there's no need for a > code of conduct, it's a non solution to a non problem intended only to divide > and punish for political ends. Maybe I'm just getting old, but the younger > generation is far too coddled and expectant of the world to adjust to their > feelings rather than learning how to deal with the world and others who have > different ideas than they do. Safe spaces are bad ideas. > > -- > Ramón León > >
