You just wrote what I didn't quite dare to say. Thank you. On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 11:29, Ramon Leon <ramon.l...@allresnet.com> wrote:
> On 2019-09-17 2:34 p.m., Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > > as I say the important issue is to provide safe > > spaces via explicit or implicit rules > > I understand, I just disagree. These are of course my personal opinions, > others may disagree. "Safe spaces" are bad things, not good things; the > world is not a safe space, it is not the responsibility of others to > provide one a feeling of safety in a an online community where people > merely exchange words. Words are not dangerous, you are already safe. If > you don't like what someone is saying, ignore them or mute them. Safe space > a euphemism for censorship and exclusion, people who want safe spaces want > to exclude other people who might express ideas or opinions that they > disagree with. Safe spaces are anti-free speech zones. > > They are an attempt to prepare the world for the child rather than the > child for the world; they are inherently narcissistic. Intellectual > discourse is supposed to be challenging to your beliefs, you're supposed to > confront ideas you might not like or agree with and people you might have a > hard time getting along with. If you submit code to a technical forum you > should expect criticism and debate. Technical discussions should resolve > around the ideas being presented, not around the identities of those > involved, and ideas should always be open to critique and debate. I don't > care what one's sex or gender are or what color one's skin is or political > beliefs are; those things have no place in a technical forum. I watch these > groups to see discussions about technology like Pharo, Squeak, or Seaside. > > It's a rare thing to see anyone here being truly rude, there's no need for > a code of conduct, it's a non solution to a non problem intended only to > divide and punish for political ends. Maybe I'm just getting old, but the > younger generation is far too coddled and expectant of the world to adjust > to their feelings rather than learning how to deal with the world and > others who have different ideas than they do. Safe spaces are bad ideas. > > -- > Ramón León > > >