No, you can't install libcurl3 with libcurl4. There is a known conflict
between them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294,
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511

Ubuntu 18.4 don't come with curl, but I think it comes with libcurl3 (I
don't have means to verify it now), but when you install curl, it installs
libcurl4 and removes libcurl3.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 11:00 AM Richard O'Keefe <rao...@gmail.com> wrote:

> apt-cache search
> reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED.
> For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not
> installed.
> apt list | grep lua-curl-dev
>
> The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed
> means that either of them can be installed without conflict.
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <rao...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this
>>> laptop yesterday,
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> and it did not come with any version of curl.
>>>
>>
>> What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for...
>>     $ apt-cache search libcurl | less
>> I see libcurl3 and libcurl4
>>
>> cheers -ben
>>
>>
>>> uname -a =>
>>> Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12
>>> 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl
>>>> version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install
>>>> libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older
>>>> software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and
>>>> it also failed.
>>>>
>>>> Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either
>>>> Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use
>>>> libcrl4.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <rao...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04
>>>>> with no trouble so far.  I just downloaded the launcher
>>>>> from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the
>>>>> number of programs (like okular) that spew warning
>>>>> messages out the terminal.  Pharo, sadly, is one of
>>>>> them.  Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo
>>>>> there is spewage on the terminal.  But it works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfers...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to
>>>>>> have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. I’ve had 
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even
>>>>>> Windows. I have run ‘sudo apt install’ maybe 80 times to install tools 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> libraries. Ubuntu 18.04’s hardware support is also lame compared to 
>>>>>> 16.04.
>>>>>> Personally , I’m not surprised that Pharo doesn’t run on 18.04. I
>>>>>> stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a
>>>>>> few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of
>>>>>> upgrading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /*—————————————————-*/
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png
>>>>>> See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobb...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a
>>>>>> senior
>>>>>> > moment.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server
>>>>>> 18.04 at
>>>>>> > OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google
>>>>>> Cloud
>>>>>> > Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server
>>>>>> 16.04.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and
>>>>>> my brain
>>>>>> > is dying.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the
>>>>>> enterprise
>>>>>> > space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's
>>>>>> going to
>>>>>> > be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not
>>>>>> supporting this
>>>>>> > for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from
>>>>>> this list of
>>>>>> > hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various
>>>>>> versions of
>>>>>> > CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu
>>>>>> 18.04 LTS
>>>>>> > Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various
>>>>>> versions
>>>>>> > of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I
>>>>>> > strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem
>>>>>> now, it
>>>>>> > will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me – I'm
>>>>>> just the
>>>>>> > canary in the coal mine.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Tim Mackinnon wrote
>>>>>> >> Come on, let’s try not to be dismissive , we’ve all had that
>>>>>> annoying
>>>>>> >> moment where something doesn’t work.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as
>>>>>> mentioned -
>>>>>> >> a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I’m assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was
>>>>>> that v6
>>>>>> >> and now you’re trying v7?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Tim
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich &lt;
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> jpfersich@
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> &gt; wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You
>>>>>> couldn’t
>>>>>> >>> supply less information if you tried.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> /*—————————————————-*/
>>>>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> >>> https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png
>>>>>> >>> See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng &lt;
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> horrido.hobbies@
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> &gt; wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Error: External module not found
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Sent from:
>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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