apt-cache search reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED. For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not installed. apt list | grep lua-curl-dev
The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed means that either of them can be installed without conflict. On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <rao...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this >> laptop yesterday, >> > > > >> and it did not come with any version of curl. >> > > What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... > $ apt-cache search libcurl | less > I see libcurl3 and libcurl4 > > cheers -ben > > >> uname -a => >> Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 >> 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux >> >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormc...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl >>> version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install >>> libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older >>> software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and >>> it also failed. >>> >>> Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either >>> Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use >>> libcrl4. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <rao...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 >>>> with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher >>>> from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way. >>>> >>>> One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the >>>> number of programs (like okular) that spew warning >>>> messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of >>>> them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo >>>> there is spewage on the terminal. But it works. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to >>>>> have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. I’ve had more >>>>> problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even >>>>> Windows. I have run ‘sudo apt install’ maybe 80 times to install tools and >>>>> libraries. Ubuntu 18.04’s hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. >>>>> Personally , I’m not surprised that Pharo doesn’t run on 18.04. I >>>>> stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a >>>>> few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of >>>>> upgrading. >>>>> >>>>> /*—————————————————-*/ >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png >>>>> See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org >>>>> >>>>> > On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a >>>>> senior >>>>> > moment. >>>>> > >>>>> > The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server >>>>> 18.04 at >>>>> > OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04. >>>>> > >>>>> > This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google >>>>> Cloud >>>>> > Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server >>>>> 16.04. >>>>> > >>>>> > Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and >>>>> my brain >>>>> > is dying. >>>>> > >>>>> > The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, >>>>> and >>>>> > Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the >>>>> enterprise >>>>> > space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's >>>>> going to >>>>> > be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting >>>>> this >>>>> > for now, but it will eventually catch up with us. >>>>> > >>>>> > At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this >>>>> list of >>>>> > hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various >>>>> versions of >>>>> > CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu >>>>> 18.04 LTS >>>>> > Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various >>>>> versions >>>>> > of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I >>>>> > strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.* >>>>> > >>>>> > How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem >>>>> now, it >>>>> > will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone. >>>>> > >>>>> > I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me – I'm >>>>> just the >>>>> > canary in the coal mine. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Tim Mackinnon wrote >>>>> >> Come on, let’s try not to be dismissive , we’ve all had that >>>>> annoying >>>>> >> moment where something doesn’t work. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as >>>>> mentioned - >>>>> >> a Linux distro is going to be helpful. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I’m assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was >>>>> that v6 >>>>> >> and now you’re trying v7? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Tim >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich < >>>>> > >>>>> >> jpfersich@ >>>>> > >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You >>>>> couldn’t >>>>> >>> supply less information if you tried. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> /*—————————————————-*/ >>>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>> https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png >>>>> >>> See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng < >>>>> > >>>>> >> horrido.hobbies@ >>>>> > >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Error: External module not found >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> It doesn't matter how I install Pharo. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>
