I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday, and it did not come with any version of curl. uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl > version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install > libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older > software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and > it also failed. > > Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu > fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4. > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <rao...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 >> with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher >> from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way. >> >> One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the >> number of programs (like okular) that spew warning >> messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of >> them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo >> there is spewage on the terminal. But it works. >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfers...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have >>> abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. I’ve had more >>> problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even >>> Windows. I have run ‘sudo apt install’ maybe 80 times to install tools and >>> libraries. Ubuntu 18.04’s hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. >>> Personally , I’m not surprised that Pharo doesn’t run on 18.04. I >>> stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a >>> few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of >>> upgrading. >>> >>> /*—————————————————-*/ >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png >>> See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org >>> >>> > On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior >>> > moment. >>> > >>> > The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 >>> at >>> > OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04. >>> > >>> > This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google >>> Cloud >>> > Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server >>> 16.04. >>> > >>> > Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my >>> brain >>> > is dying. >>> > >>> > The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and >>> > Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the >>> enterprise >>> > space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's >>> going to >>> > be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting >>> this >>> > for now, but it will eventually catch up with us. >>> > >>> > At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this >>> list of >>> > hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various >>> versions of >>> > CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu >>> 18.04 LTS >>> > Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various >>> versions >>> > of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I >>> > strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.* >>> > >>> > How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem >>> now, it >>> > will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone. >>> > >>> > I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me – I'm >>> just the >>> > canary in the coal mine. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Tim Mackinnon wrote >>> >> Come on, let’s try not to be dismissive , we’ve all had that annoying >>> >> moment where something doesn’t work. >>> >> >>> >> Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as >>> mentioned - >>> >> a Linux distro is going to be helpful. >>> >> >>> >> I’m assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was >>> that v6 >>> >> and now you’re trying v7? >>> >> >>> >> Tim >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >>> >>> On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich < >>> > >>> >> jpfersich@ >>> > >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You >>> couldn’t >>> >>> supply less information if you tried. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> /*—————————————————-*/ >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png >>> >>> See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng < >>> > >>> >> horrido.hobbies@ >>> > >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Error: External module not found >>> >>>> >>> >>>> It doesn't matter how I install Pharo. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>> > >>> >>>
