Very good! What about the UI lag and the occasional spinner that blocks the UI, is this related to the debugging protocol (I see that the IDEs are loaded in iframes) that will go away when run from local, or is this something that can be optimized away?
Thanks for the details so far! Siemen On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Craig Latta <cr...@blackpagedigital.com> wrote: > > > The minimal example seems to load fast enough. Do you think there is a > > potential to slim it down even further for a production system that > > uses the DOM as its UI, ie remove morphic and others and use the image > > in headless mode? > > Certainly. I've done some experiments with "animated wireframes" > for the development tools. See [1]. I can compose UIs in HTML, then read > them into SqueakJS and give them behavior by giving them DOM event > handlers written in Smalltalk. > > > Thanks for the offer to work together on the Pharo port. It is too > > early for me to commit to that, but I definitely like the idea. Right > > now I'm just checking out. I'd like to use Pharo's (or Squak's) > > interactive development workflow to develop single page web apps and > > mobile apps in a reliable manner. > > Yes, I've found it to be a very productive environment. It's great > to be able to debug things in situ, in the DOM environment. > > > Is there a way to run the IDE in a separate window from the actual > > application, so that the UI would behave as in production during > > development? I'm especially thinking of responsive web applications > > here. > > Yes; I've also built an interface to the Google remote debugging > protocol, so (in Chrome) I can run SqueakJS in one browser window, and > control whatever's going on in any other browser window. > > > (If not then perhaps putting them into divs next to each other might > > be a decent workaround) > > Yeah, this is what I did in the first Caffeine demo[2]. When I want > the Smalltalk IDE to disappear I just set the opacity of its div to zero > and its pointer-events to none. This approach works across all browsers. > > > thanks, > > -C > > [1] https://tinyurl.com/y9ngn363 (github.com) > [2] https://caffeine.js.org > > -- > Craig Latta > Black Page Digital > Amsterdam :: San Francisco > cr...@blackpagedigital.com > +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) > + 1 415 287 3547 (no SMS) > >
