Nothing, that's precisely my point! So we don't need to talk about balls size, with the implicit gender assumptions about courage and the "Macho Programmer" way of argumentation, that is toxic in *other* communities for minorities (non white, non cisgender, non male) which usually repeals them for participation.
So, yes, lets focus on a better installing Pharo experience on Windows. Cheers, Offray On 18/06/18 13:39, Travis Ayres wrote: > What does not talking like an asshole have to do with being white and > male? > > ...seriously? > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 11:31 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas > <offray.l...@mutabit.com <mailto:offray.l...@mutabit.com>> wrote: > > > > On 18/06/18 09:47, Herbert Vojčík wrote: >>>> Do you have enough balls to call out Steph for his obviously >>>> wrong decision to push Launcher down the users' throats and >>>> make him revert to working installers / zips? Cause AFAICT >>>> there's the bottleneck atm. >>> >>> First, it was MY decision. >> >> My apologies to blaming Steph. >> >>> I’m pushing launcher as the default download for Pharo since >>> year now. >>> Do I am happy with it not working on windows right now? Of >>> course not. But pushing it also in windows has already forced us >>> to fix some bugs there and a new version of the launcher (and a >>> better Pharo on windows) and at the result will be good. >>> I was going to suspend the launcher as the default download >>> until a better version arrived, but I’ve been told that will >>> happen this week, so I will wait. >>> >>> Second, we have a lot of bottlenecks, but is true this is >>> important. >>> >>> Third, please restrain your self to talk like that in the >>> future. Is rude and unnecessary. >> >> I won't. Sometimes it seems this kind of talk is needed. Windows >> launcher was not working for so long but it is still pushed as >> the default download option, because "higher goals" I presume. If >> this kind of talk helps to get rid of it until working (or make >> it finally actually work), it is anything but unnecessary. > > I don't see how this "Macho Programmer Culture" mixing genitalia > size with community behavior and admin choices is necessary. But I > see why, for sure, non-(white)-males feel so unwelcome in > developers communities when some members feels such "necessity" of > addressing others with such language and when pointed to that, > just reinforce their choices. > > Best, > > Offray >
