> On 18 Jun 2018, at 15:39, Herbert Vojčík <he...@mailbox.sk> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> horrido wrote on 18. 6. 2018 0:04:
>> This is what concerns me. I don't care that there are workarounds
>> (undocumented or hard to find).
>> I care that Windows is a most popular development platform. I care that
>> newcomers to Pharo easily find what they need to get started. I care about
>> Pharo's reputation.
>> The last thing Pharo needs is a black eye.
> 
> Do you have enough balls to call out Steph for his obviously wrong decision 
> to push Launcher down the users' throats and make him revert to working 
> installers / zips? Cause AFAICT there's the bottleneck atm.

First, it was MY decision.
I’m pushing launcher as the default download for Pharo since year now. 
Do I am happy with it not working on windows right now? Of course not. But 
pushing it also in windows has already forced us to fix some bugs there and a 
new version of the launcher (and a better Pharo on windows) and at the result 
will be good. 
I was going to suspend the launcher as the default download until a better 
version arrived, but I’ve been told that will happen this week, so I will wait.

Second, we have a lot of bottlenecks, but is true this is important.

Third, please restrain your self to talk like that in the future. Is rude and 
unnecessary. 

Esteban

> 
> Herby
> 
>> Travis Ayres wrote
>>> I wonder how many people tried Pharo, thought "Oh this is totally broken"
>>> and are never going to give it a second (or third) chance.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 11:26 AM,
>>> phil@
>>>  &lt;
>>> phil@
>>> &gt;
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The current website shows the wrong link, the installer for the bleeding
>>>> edge is the wrong one in files.
>>>> The situation on the Windows front is very very bad and not really
>>>> improving.
>>>> 
>>>> That being said, the installer on the CI is the right one and works.
>>>> 
>>>> so, steal the installer from here: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-
>>>> jenkins2/job/PharoLauncher
>>>> 
>>>> This is the one you want:
>>>> 
>>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/PharoLauncher/
>>>> 
>>>> For having the latest lastet everything, go to the launcher settings, get
>>>> into the devmode and open monticello and load the latest packages.
>>>> 
>>>> Phil
>> --
>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
> 


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