How a project is named is a choice of the author. Nobody gets to demand how
someone should name their projects.
Now how project is actually named is not a issue if it is properly handled
on pharo side, which in some places is, in some places isn't.
For instance, there's a gazillion UI frameworks out there and, most of the
> time, the name used for them is one of a famous painter.
We have Magritte, which is a meta-data description framework, not UI
framework. :)
How many Pharo *users* (not regular contributors!) know what those
> tools/frameworks/packages do ???
Probably not many, because they never encounter them, nor care about
whether they exist or not.
A very quick look at what's in Pharo 7 shows the following names : Iceberg,
> Ombu, Calypso, Flashback, Nautilus, Renraku, Zodiac, Shift, Zinc, Hermes,
> Beacon, Cargo, Hermes, Opal, Shoreline, Epicea, Balloon, BlueInk,
> Commander, Fuel, Glamorous, Glamour, Gofer, Hiedra, Metacello, Moose, Ring,
> Rubric, Shout, Spec, etc...
Calypso + Nautilus: as a user you don't get to encounter the names, there's
only "System Browser"
Did you know that there are other code browsers you can install? (e.g. Code
Panels, Alt Browser, ...)
Iceberg: as someone pointed out, this would be nice to have a "(Git)
Versionner" or whatever entry instead
Metacello: npm => "Package manager 1", pip => "Package manager 2", ...
Ombu/Epicea: you access it via "Code Changes", names are hidden from the
user
Flashback, Renraku, Hermes, Opal, Shoreline, BlueInk, Hiedra, Ring, Rubric,
Shout, Glamorous, Glamour: not something a regular user ever encounters
directly, and if they need to, the unique name helps a lot in finding
information/docs about it
Moose: are you serious? should Pharo be called "Programming Language 28301"
too?
Commander: Commander is a library to implement commands. You literally
cannot have a more descriptive name and yet you still complain.
Spec: ... maybe we can rename
* Morphic "UI 1"
* Baloon "UI -1"
* Spec "UI 2"
* Rubric "UI 3"
* Tx "UI A"
* Bloc "UI א"
* Athens "UI ε"
* Cairo "UI Щ"
* Sparta "UI さ"
and then try to find any information about anything.
Was it really that hard to replace the old workspace with Workspace2 or
> WhateverWorkspace ? Or even better : get rid of the old Workspace and
> replace it with Playground while retaining the name "Workspace" ???
Well I could claim that "Workspace" is a very confusing name, because it is
not actually workspace, just a trivial Text Box. If anything, Playground is
a much more fitting name.
Or somethings as simple as Regex, the regex package from Bykov.
Which variant of regular expressions though?
Unless we *clearly* publicize/describe what those names are, there's no way
> in a thousand years you could tell that BlueInk is not a package dealing
> with fonts (that was my first guess) !
I fully agree with this, and as I've mentioned (here, or maybe in another
thread), this has improved greatly with move to GitHub, as people finally
started to care about describing their projects. But the transition takes
time. Btw BlueInk is a "pretty printer", so the name isn't really
misleading once you know what it is. But being "clever" with names is sure
way to get it misinterpreted. (E.g. "grafoscopio" which has nothing to do
with graphs or visualizations, as it is text/nodes/code snippets
organization tool.)
(For the record I tend to name projects with the most boring name I can
come up with (tonel-migration, IconFactory, file-dialog,
xml-magritte-generator, uml-xmi, ...), but it only works if there's only
one such thing... if there are competing projects, than sharing the name
doesn't help anyone.)
Peter
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 1:34 AM, David T. Lewis <le...@mail.msen.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 07:08:29AM -0700, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
> > Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote
> > > I like when developers are talking about names:
> > > They use a mac and not a computer, they were nike, lewis and not shoes
> > > and pants....
> > > So guys can we focus our energy on positive things.
> >
> > IHMO this is certainly a positive subject because it highlights the
> > as-yet-to-be-resolved tension regarding understandability of the system
> > between having a unique name (good for googling, distinguishing between
> > versions) and a name that reveals what the project does/is for. What is
> the
> > plan to resolve this because it is a real problem?
> >
> > Nike and Levis are designed to stand on their own in front of the
> consumer
> > market. Is this true of Nautilus, Calypso, or Epicea?
>
> Sean,
>
> Thank you for this clarification! I read Stef's message this morning
> and I honestly thought that my name ("lewis") might have something to
> do with pants. That probably would not be a good thing. But now I see
> that we are talking about "levis" so I feel much better now :-)
>
> Dave (Lewis, not Levis)
>
>
>
