Agreed, just pointing out that other systems have similar issues, and
do because it's not easy to do originally or to fix later on. But I'm
just a Pharo user, not a Pharo developer. I'm leaning on the shoulders
of much better developers.
It takes time to learn any system. I've spent 21 years programming Java
and there's still plenty I don't know. I've spent 16 years with
Eclipse and the current version bears little resemblance to the
original. Rebasing all of Eclipse on OSGi was done in an incremental
update, between 3.3 and 3.4 if I remember correctly.
>From the user perspective, at least the changes in Pharo provide more
caveats, given they've taken place in full version changes with alpha
versions preceding beta and stable versions.
AndrewOn Fri, 2018-04-13 at 14:39 +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
>
> > On 13 Apr 2018, at 14:33, Andrew Glynn <aglyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I find NPM as obscure as Pharo, honestly, and VA Smalltalk is worse
> > (wth does abt or sst stand for?). Grunt, Gulp, etc., how do the
> > names relate to what they do?
> yes… but we actually have a problem there.
> I would like to be able to add “tags" to tools, to be able to say:
>
> Calypso -> a class browser -> some more info
> etc.
>
> Esteban
>
> >
> > Electron is as obscure as Phobos (although a phobia with web pages
> > turned into desktop apps may be appropriate).
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On Fri, 2018-04-13 at 14:18 +0200, Peter Uhnák wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Richard O'Keefe
> > > m> wrote:
> > > > There are a lot of subsystems in Pharo, and being a bear of
> > > > very little brain, I have a hard time relating Zinc, Calypso,
> > > > &c &c to, well, whatever they are. I presume there is
> > > > somewhere a list of topic/name/PFX triples for guidance.
> > > > Can some kind soul tell me where it is?
> > > >
> > > Until we have mature package manager (similar to Cargo or npm),
> > > you have to use google.
> > > On the bright side, with the move to git(hub), people are much
> > > more likely to actually describe what their project does, and
> > > maybe even a bit of documentation. This was almost non-existent
> > > with SmalltalkHub.
> > >
> > > Peter
