> On 5 Dec 2017, at 16:36, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote:
>
> Hmm, yes, http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo6.1-linux.zip seems broken,
> duh.
>
> $ curl get.pharo.org | bash
>
> works fine though.
>
> It is not possible to offer a single solution for 'Linux' as there are 100s
> of distributions, package managers, and individual preferences and tastes.
> That is what GNU/Linux is for. It also assumes you know what you are doing
> (i.e. understand the command line).
>
There is this, too:
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20799/Update-Linux-Download-instructions
I will update the website this week.
We need to improve in general the download… so much todo.
>> On 5 Dec 2017, at 16:10, horrido <horrido.hobb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Then clearly there is something seriously wrong with the Default GNU/Linux
>> download. It does not contain a file called 'pharo-ui'.
>>
>> Moreover, since the Pharo6.1.image file is located in the 'shared' folder,
>> you'd have to CD to 'shared' to execute your command. No mention of this
>> anywhere! How is a newbie to know???
>>
>> Also, there is absolutely no indication that: (a) you need to download a VM;
>> and (b) where you can obtain this VM from. All in all, this Linux support is
>> quite messed up. It would be safer to remove it completely from pharo.org,
>> rather than confusing the hell out of a visitor to pharo.org.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote
>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:49 AM, horrido <
>>
>>> horrido.hobbies@
>>
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Understood. I'm working on a Pharo Quick Start guide. If it passes muster
>>>> with you guys, you may want to link to it, or incorporate its contents
>>>> into
>>>> the pharo.org website.
>>>
>>> Sure let us know.
>>>
>>>
>>>> However, I've stumbled on an odd obstacle: downloading and running the
>>>> Default GNU/Linux zip file. According to the Linux installation page, and
>>>> I
>>>> quote:
>>>>
>>>> Version 6.1 for several common GNU/Linux configurations. The zip files
>>>> contain everything necessary. Just download and run the executable. For
>>>> more
>>>> download options, see the sections below.
>>>
>>> ./pharo-ui Pharo61.image &
>>>>
>>>> I am unable to "run the executable" without further explanation. I'm
>>>> guessing that it's missing the Pharo VM, which apparently isn't included
>>>> in
>>>> the download.
>>>
>>> Why would it be?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> A newbie looking at this installation page and trying to get started with
>>>> Pharo under Linux would be totally confused and frustrated. Hell, *I'm
>>>> totally confused and frustrated!*
>>>
>>> As you see this can be fixed without losing more time on that.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a full mooc with 90 videos, we have books. And we are super
>>>>> busy.
>>>>> You see we cannot do everything.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stef
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:15 AM, horrido <
>>>>
>>>>> horrido.hobbies@
>>>>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> Speaking of which, one of my readers said he tried out Pharo recently
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> found the documentation wanting. He was expecting a Getting Started
>>>>>> guide
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the pharo.org website and couldn't find one. So he had to blunder
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I told him he could've looked at "Chapter 2: A quick tour of Pharo" in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> *Pharo by Example 5* book, but he's right. There ought to be something
>>>>>> obvious at the pharo.org website that helps a newbie get Pharo up and
>>>>>> running, understand how to basically use the Pharo IDE, and write the
>>>>>> standard "Hello World" program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked out squeak.org and found the same documentation issue! Why is
>>>>>> this???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote
>>>>>>> Documentation is going well. In fact the stuff that kept me away of
>>>>>>> Squeak, despite of its potential was the lack of documentation. "The
>>>>>>> artifact is the curriculum" was to powerful but too heavy. You need a
>>>>>>> way to understand how to deconstruct and navigate the artifact that is
>>>>>>> usually anchored with the culture you have (books and reading) instead
>>>>>>> of only launching inspectors os browsing the code. Grafoscopio is my
>>>>>>> attempt to fill that gap between the world of objects/simulations and
>>>>>>> the world of scripts/documents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Offray
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
>>>>
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